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Team: 2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 23, 2024
Published: Mar. 23, 2024
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I hope by the end of the draft the team looks something like this.

The biggest issue this team has had is these idiot GM's coming i n thinking they have to "fix" it all in 1 year and they end up making horrible moves.
Slow and steady rebuilt step by step.
Step one, get Cap moved around.
EK is a really good player. But he's not the player the penguins ever needed. They move EK and bring in JT who TOR wants to dump. The JT contract is only 1 year. They aren't going to be cup contenders next year anyway so it's easy to swallow it.
They add in a good young 3rd liner in Knies and pick up a 1sst. It's a decent return on moving EK out, and taking JT on. For TOR they gain the defenseman who can really push play that they really need.

PIT also move out Smith's contract, again, it's only 1 year so they can handle the cap hit on the retention. EDM needs cost controlled wingers and getting one with no term makes sure it doesn't weigh the team down in the future.

This can also helps the Pens long term, as they move on from Eller they can resign JT to be the 3C at a reasonable cap hit.

This gives the team 1 more year of development on OP and BY before bringing them into the fold.
A 2 year plan to build the team out is really what is needed at this point. There is no magic solution to make this team a contender next year. The best they can do is make a 2 step process.

Move money out, pick up a young player or two, let prospects develop and attempt to fix the blueline picking up 2 guys at decent cap hits who can help but with contracts that won't sink the team.

This team also needs to bring in a new coach. They need someone who can actually realize they need to adapt. The old core can't run put and down the ice anymore. They need to slow the game down. Have a more cycle possession offense while letting the defense actually play defense instead of constantly trying to jump up in the play.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$950,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$3,800,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Knies, Matthew
  2. Tavares, John
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
The penguins get a pick and a decent young 3rd liner.
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik
Additional Details:
TOR gets the defenseman they need and Dumps JT's contract.
2.
PIT
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
EDM needs cost effective forwards who can help a playoff push.
EDM
  1. Smith, Reilly ($2,500,000 retained)
Buyouts
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$81,791,009$0$57,500$5,708,991
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$3,800,000$3,800,000
RD
UFA
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$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA
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$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
LD
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Mar. 23 at 9:31 p.m.
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I think you have the 1st round pick and power forward going the wrong way. Karlsson is the dump.... Not Tavares.
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Mar. 23 at 9:34 p.m.
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I'll bet that Matt Roy gets about 50% more than that . . . he'll get $5.5 million.
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Mar. 23 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
I think you have the 1st round pick and power forward going the wrong way. Karlsson is the dump.... Not Tavares.


You must be kidding yourself. RD on EK level are not Dumps.
But 54 point 11 mil contracts on forwards are and if you can't figure that out, go look at all the TOR acgm dumping him.
Mar. 23 at 9:36 p.m.
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I'll bet that Matt Roy gets about 50% more than that . . . he'll get $5.5 million.


he's not worth that.
If someone wants to offer that to him out of desperation go for it. Fact is he's decent value now, and here he's getting a decent pay bump.
The cap hasn't gone up that much since he signed his last deal and he's a lot older on the wrong side of 30 getting a 5 year deal.
Mar. 23 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
You must be kidding yourself. RD on EK level are not Dumps.
But 54 point 11 mil contracts on forwards are and if you can't figure that out, go look at all the TOR acgm dumping him.


I'm not saying Tavares is worth 11 mill. What I'm saying is I'd rather have his 11 mill for one year instead of the absolute travesty that is karlsson is playing DEFENSE for 10 mill for another 3 years. You need to readjust your evaluation process, I legitimately am concerned about how far off the mark you are.
Mar. 23 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
he's not worth that.
If someone wants to offer that to him out of desperation go for it. Fact is he's decent value now, and here he's getting a decent pay bump.
The cap hasn't gone up that much since he signed his last deal and he's a lot older on the wrong side of 30 getting a 5 year deal.


He's better than EK.
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Mar. 23 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
he's not worth that.
If someone wants to offer that to him out of desperation go for it. Fact is he's decent value now, and here he's getting a decent pay bump.
The cap hasn't gone up that much since he signed his last deal and he's a lot older on the wrong side of 30 getting a 5 year deal.


I didn't know 29 was the wrong side of 30
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Mar. 23 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
I'm not saying Tavares is worth 11 mill. What I'm saying is I'd rather have his 11 mill for one year instead of the absolute travesty that is karlsson is playing DEFENSE for 10 mill for another 3 years. You need to readjust your evaluation process, I legitimately am concerned about how far off the mark you are.


Quoting: TheOtherAuston
He's better than EK.


uh no actually he's not.

And B. EK was a bad fit on PIT from day 1. They didn't need a 1RD. They already had one.
EK needs to go into a team that needs a 1RD that can drive the offense. Every time he's put on a team that already has a 1RD, SJS, PIT, and he has to split that role, it doesn't work.
But when Burns got out the way in SJS he exploded.

TOR doesn't have this issue. If anything they are desperate for a 1RD of his level who can really drive the game without him having to split the Ozone time and play defense.

It's not hard to figure that out.

TOR is the right fit for a really good player. JT is a cap dump.
Maybe stop being a homer.
Mar. 23 at 9:44 p.m.
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I didn't know 29 was the wrong side of 30


he's 30 next year might want to check yourself
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
he's not worth that.
If someone wants to offer that to him out of desperation go for it. Fact is he's decent value now, and here he's getting a decent pay bump.
The cap hasn't gone up that much since he signed his last deal and he's a lot older on the wrong side of 30 getting a 5 year deal.


I thought the wrong side of 30 would be like.... 33 .... Kinda like EK.
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Mar. 23 at 9:45 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
I think you have the 1st round pick and power forward going the wrong way. Karlsson is the dump.... Not Tavares.


Karlsson > Tavares. I don’t think the difference is as big as OP suggested but Karlsson is still a top pair RHD
Mar. 23 at 9:47 p.m.
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Karlsson > Tavares. I don’t think the difference is as big as OP suggested but Karlsson is still a top pair RHD


the return is not just the value of EK but the cap dump of JT. JT isn't even close to being worth his cap hit.
Mar. 23 at 9:48 p.m.
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uh no actually he's not.

And B. EK was a bad fit on PIT from day 1. They didn't need a 1RD. They already had one.
EK needs to go into a team that needs a 1RD that can drive the offense. Every time he's put on a team that already has a 1RD, SJS, PIT, and he has to split that role, it doesn't work.
But when Burns got out the way in SJS he exploded.

TOR doesn't have this issue. If anything they are desperate for a 1RD of his level who can really drive the game without him having to split the Ozone time and play defense.

It's not hard to figure that out.

TOR is the right fit for a really good player. JT is a cap dump.
Maybe stop being a homer.


And yet everytime EK plays that role and gets his points he is terrible defensively.... We need defense not offence. I'm not the homer here. I've already stated jt is overpaid. I just thinks it's Ludacris for you to think EK holds that value right now because he definitely does not. You should quit while you are behind because it's only going to get worse. I've already proved my point and at this point you are a waste of my typing.
Mar. 23 at 9:49 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
the return is not just the value of EK but the cap dump of JT. JT isn't even close to being worth his cap hit.


Neither is EK.... And for many more years.
Mar. 23 at 9:51 p.m.
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Not interested in EK

Nor does he have that value

Rather just keep JT than have the cap the following season lul
Mar. 23 at 9:53 p.m.
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Karlsson > Tavares. I don’t think the difference is as big as OP suggested but Karlsson is still a top pair RHD


I don't think jt is a dump he is still on his way to 65-70 points and kills it for us in the dot and is defensively responsible. Ek on the other hand is not defensively responsible which is the #1 quality we would want out of a number one RD. If I was a GM and I had to have one of those players/contracts on my team it's clear cut that I would take Tavares for one more year at 11 M vs karlsson for three more at 10 M and that's why the OPs trade is god awful.
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Mar. 23 at 9:54 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
the return is not just the value of EK but the cap dump of JT. JT isn't even close to being worth his cap hit.


I don’t think EK is worth his cap hit either. And because of the term he has you could argue a 1 for 1 swap is fair
Mar. 23 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
And yet everytime EK plays that role and gets his points he is terrible defensively.... We need defense not offence. I'm not the homer here. I've already stated jt is overpaid. I just thinks it's Ludacris for you to think EK holds that value right now because he definitely does not. You should quit while you are behind because it's only going to get worse. I've already proved my point and at this point you are a waste of my typing.


A. he's not horrible defensively. He's much better than you think.
B. He's a norris level defenseman. Good luck finding one of those.
C. He is exactly what TOR needs. Which is why there are plenty of TOR fans trying to make EK trades.
D. You should really just log off and find your power animal or something to take you to a safe space as you are having a melt down.
Mar. 23 at 9:56 p.m.
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I don't think jt is a dump he is still on his way to 65-70 points and kills it for us in the dot and is defensively responsible. Ek on the other hand is not defensively responsible which is the #1 quality we would want out of a number one RD. If I was a GM and I had to have one of those players/contracts on my team it's clear cut that I would take Tavares for one more year at 11 M vs karlsson for three more at 10 M and that's why the OPs trade is god awful.


I can see why you’d rather have JT over EK. I also agree that EK isn’t a great fit for Toronto because they already have Rielly as an all offense dman

JT is arguably a cap dump or has minimal value because of his cap hit though. But it’s not too bad since he’s expiring
Mar. 23 at 9:59 p.m.
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Ooof this is really bad, So your saying Leafs give up a first (that they can draft a RD who actually plays defence) Knies a young middle 6 player and Tavares the captain of the biggest market in the NHL who sure is not worth 11m but it’s only one year and in return the leafs get an old, washed up, strictly offensive D which is far from what they need that is going to make 30m over the next 3 years. I sure hope this is a joke 😂😂
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I don’t think EK is worth his cap hit either. And because of the term he has you could argue a 1 for 1 swap is fair


not even close. That's TOR homerism.
Mar. 23 at 10:00 p.m.
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he's not worth that.
If someone wants to offer that to him out of desperation go for it. Fact is he's decent value now, and here he's getting a decent pay bump.
The cap hasn't gone up that much since he signed his last deal and he's a lot older on the wrong side of 30 getting a 5 year deal.


He is absolutely worth 5.5 and that’s another thing Roy is what the Leafs need not Karlsson
Mar. 23 at 10:00 p.m.
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not even close. That's TOR homerism.


I’m not a Toronto fan
Mar. 23 at 10:01 p.m.
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Ooof this is really bad, So your saying Leafs give up a first (that they can draft a RD who actually plays defence) Knies a young middle 6 player and Tavares the captain of the biggest market in the NHL who sure is not worth 11m but it’s only one year and in return the leafs get an old, washed up, strictly offensive D which is far from what they need that is going to make 30m over the next 3 years. I sure hope this is a joke 😂😂


1 late 1st round pick.... like a 40% chance of even playing 200 games.
a 3rd liner.
and a cap dump.
That's the cost for TOR.
Please get it right.

PS. TOR isn't the biggest NHL market.
Not even the biggest in canada. That would be MTL
Mar. 23 at 10:01 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
Anything over 30 is the wrong side of 30... and EK maybe 33 but he's still the best RHD available by a mile.

Maybe get on your meds, you seem to be spiraling out of control with your 800 posts in 3 minutes.


Karlsson is a way bigger dump than JT he has 3 years left 10m per
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