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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs

Apr. 16 at 1:44 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
At this point, I think it's a certainty that Bertuzzi won't be extended by the Leafs due to cap restraints. If we want a cheaper option to fill that same nice, I'd strongly pursue Warren Foegele


If Brad goes out and revamps the Dcore like I suspect he will they wont have cap for even him.

As Roy and Demelo wont come cheap and were probs gonna bring a proper tandem guy at 2-3m to be insurance in case Woll still aint the guy.
Apr. 16 at 1:54 p.m.
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There really isnt much we can do

TOR does not have the cap to bring both back and improve this Dcore even if they move Jarnkrok and Timmins money just gets to tight to bring two good RD and extend Liligren to a proper realistic deal


You can though... Bert and Domi shouldn't cost more than they do now... Toronto has a ton of young guys who want an opportunity... Guys like Robertson, Steeves, Hirvonen, Tverberg, Minten, Quillan, Niemela, Kokkonen, Riafali, etc.

Lilly should only get 2.5-3.25 on a longer term deal...
Apr. 16 at 2:38 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 16 at 3:51 p.m.
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You can though... Bert and Domi shouldn't cost more than they do now... Toronto has a ton of young guys who want an opportunity... Guys like Robertson, Steeves, Hirvonen, Tverberg, Minten, Quillan, Niemela, Kokkonen, Riafali, etc.

Lilly should only get 2.5-3.25 on a longer term deal...


You really cant

In order to significantly improve the Dcore have to move on from one or both of them

Even if you use a bunch of ELC's you dont have enough

Leafs have 19m

They need to extend Robertson + Dewar + Liligren then bring in a 1B goalie, 2 top 4 RD, and sign a wing

2 good top RD will eat up the majority of that cap space along with Liligren extension and the new tandem guy
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Apr. 16 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
You really cant

In order to significantly improve the Dcore have to move on

Even if you use a bunch of ELC's you dont have enough

Leafs have 19m

They need to extend Robertson + Dewar + Liligren then bring in a 1B goalie, 2 top 4 RD, and sign 2 wings

2 good top RD will eat up the majority of that cap space along with Liligren extension and the new tandem guy


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Extra: Reaves, Rafai, Abruzzese

Cause yea if they go spend 3.5m on Domi and 4.5m on Bertuzzi then they are limited elsewhere
Apr. 16 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
There really isnt much we can do

TOR does not have the cap to bring both back and improve this Dcore even if they move Jarnkrok and Timmins money just gets to tight to bring two good RD and extend Liligren to a proper realistic deal


All depends on how the playoffs go. They collapse none of Bertuzzi or Domi will return. Hell Marner me be out the door too. This playoffs is going to determine a lot and unfortunately, I think they have the wrong coach to succeed and a GM who's going to do what he did in Calgary which will likely mean old has beens will get huge money soon enough.
Apr. 16 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
At this point, I think it's a certainty that Bertuzzi won't be extended by the Leafs due to cap restraints. If we want a cheaper option to fill that same nice, I'd strongly pursue Warren Foegele


Depends on the playoffs. Unless he has a crazy good playoffs, it's going to be hard to demand a huge contract considering his scoring woes this season.
Apr. 16 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
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Extra: Reaves, Rafai, Abruzzese

Cause yea if they go spend 3.5m on Domi and 4.5m on Bertuzzi then they are limited elsewhere


Not to mention both were brought in for the playoffs and if they don't perform they are gone.
Apr. 16 at 6:54 p.m.
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Here's a fun fact:

The Leafs section of the forums has 24353 posts in total (24354 posts including the post I am making now)

All other 31 team sections combined only have 748 more posts (25101 total posts)

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Apr. 16 at 7:36 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
You really cant

In order to significantly improve the Dcore have to move on from one or both of them

Even if you use a bunch of ELC's you dont have enough

Leafs have 19m

They need to extend Robertson + Dewar + Liligren then bring in a 1B goalie, 2 top 4 RD, and sign a wing

2 good top RD will eat up the majority of that cap space along with Liligren extension and the new tandem guy


Why not:
Bert (4.5)-Matthews- Domi (3 mill)
McMann-JT-Marner
Knies-Holmberg-Willy
Dewar-Kampf-Reaves

Rielly-5.5 UFA defensemen
McCabe-Lilly (2.5 mill)
Benoit-3 mill defensemen
Niemela

Woll
Martin Jones type backup

Extras whom have the waiver exempt and can be brought up in case of emergency:
Hirvonen
Niemela
Riafali
Hildeby
Minten

CAP SPACE: 2.4 mill


It sounds like a good plan to me
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Apr. 16 at 7:38 p.m.
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Not to mention both were brought in for the playoffs and if they don't perform they are gone.


I think even with strong playoffs they gone as then they gonna ask for more and we need to improve this blue line with 2 good pieces
Apr. 16 at 7:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Why not:
Bert (4.5)-Matthews- Domi (3 mill)
McMann-JT-Marner
Knies-Holmberg-Willy
Dewar-Kampf-Reaves

Rielly-5.5 UFA defensemen
McCabe-Lilly (2.5 mill)
Benoit-3 mill defensemen
Niemela

Woll
Martin Jones type backup

Extras whom have the waiver exempt and can be brought up in case of emergency:
Hirvonen
Niemela
Riafali
Hildeby
Minten

CAP SPACE: 2.4 mill


It sounds like a good plan to me


Again cannot make significant improvement and even if u move Jarnkrok it's not doable to bring both and significantly improve the Dcore

Already showed above in the team post

And sacrifice goaltending to add both be a no no
Apr. 16 at 7:54 p.m.
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Oh so it’s gonna be like this… okay
Apr. 16 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Again cannot make significant improvement and even if u move Jarnkrok it's not doable to bring both and significantly improve the Dcore

Already showed above in the team post

And sacrifice goaltending to add both be a no no


Quoting: aadoyle
Again cannot make significant improvement and even if u move Jarnkrok it's not doable to bring both and significantly improve the Dcore

Already showed above in the team post

And sacrifice goaltending to add both be a no no


It is though... And the biggest hold up is until the JT contract ends...

On top of that, there are better D in FA at the end of 24-25
Apr. 16 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I think even with strong playoffs they gone as then they gonna ask for more and we need to improve this blue line with 2 good pieces


Probably
Apr. 16 at 8:17 p.m.
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I worry that this is the type reffing we'll be getting in round one. Just stupid.
Apr. 16 at 9:02 p.m.
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10 seconds 2-1 becomes 2-3

Defense be slipping but also need a save on one of those
Apr. 16 at 9:08 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 16 at 9:16 p.m.
Momentum be in FLA favor especially from their second line

And that last goal let in = Yikes

We need a save there

Defense and goaltending just be crumbling rn.
Apr. 16 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Momentum be in FLA favor and we on the losing end

And that last goal let in = Yikes

We need a save there


Should have had Jones as the backup and as soon as the 4th went in swap Woll out and have him rest for tomorrow
Apr. 16 at 9:13 p.m.
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Edmunson looks pretty terrible
Apr. 16 at 9:21 p.m.
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Edmundson just bailed Woll there wow almost was 5-2

But yea might have been one of the worst periods all around for this team. Sheldon better slap some sense into them as that kind of effort after a 2-0 lead in the first is a no no especially this close to playoffs
Apr. 16 at 9:24 p.m.
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Edmunson looks pretty terrible


I mean... yeah

He's Joel Edmundson
Apr. 16 at 9:25 p.m.
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Why is it that every 50-50 scrum gave Florida and extra PP

It's like they want to see a TOR-BOS 1rst round
Apr. 16 at 9:27 p.m.
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Edmunson looks pretty terrible


I mean he prevented the game from being 5-2 by playing goalie for a second lul

But him not being 100% be noticeable rn.
Apr. 16 at 9:28 p.m.
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Nice to see Keefe is already back in playoff form. Gets outshot by 32(!!!) and fails to make the proper adjustments. Absolutely caved in, absolutely unforgivable. The lineup tonight isnt a major departure from our usual group of guys, so what the hell is going so wrong? I get the officiating has been questionable, but thats hardly an excuse. Pathetic from the Leafs, Florida is just grinding us to dust
Apr. 16 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Nice to see Keefe is already back in playoff form. Gets outshot by 32(!!!) and fails to make the proper adjustments. Absolutely caved in, absolutely unforgivable. The lineup tonight isnt a major departure from our usual group of guys, so what the hell is going so wrong? I get the officiating has been questionable, but thats hardly an excuse. Pathetic from the Leafs, Florida is just grinding us to dust


At times we can question the HC but we also got to question the players playing. As when u have Matthews, Marner, JT, Nylander should not be seeing a shot differential that high if they playing like they want it

Their effort this period has gone south like birds migrating and the rest of the team is following

2 soft goals allowed dont help either.

But at the same time once it became 2-2 a time out would have been nice to settle things down as you could tell momentum was shifting especially when FLA 2nd line was on the ice
 
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