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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs

Apr. 20 at 10:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
He led both sides in shots… Like what are you watching 🤭

If they actually had another line that they could build off of… It wouldn’t have been 5-1


Wow lead us in shots did he score? No he missed a wide open net lul

Who cares for shot attempts

We could lose in game 7 and Matthews could have 20 shot attempts does not matter if he dont produce goals

Scoring goals and winning is what matters

Matthews line taking 4 penalties 3 of which were in offensive zone = not good

They need to smarten up game 2 especially Domi
Apr. 20 at 10:56 p.m.
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A few talking points:

1. More poor decisions from Keefe. Jarnkrok on PP1, not pulling Sammy at the start of the last PP. Again he really seems to struggle to motivate the team and get them to play the right way at the right times.

2. Horrible officiating.

3. Jarnkrok and Holmberg stand out as two guys who played really poorly. Both honestly looked completely lost and had many turnovers. Robertson is the only guy on that line who can carry the puck. They knew that and kept stepping up on him but the other two couldn't capitalize on transition chances.

3. Knies looked great but Marner as always disappeared. He seemed completely lost out there.

4. Woll should start next game. Not blaming Sammy but he didn't do enough to win the next for the next game.

Thoughts?
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Apr. 20 at 10:57 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Matthews was not net front battling go look at it again. Guy just skates by with his stick up like an idiot

One of the worst offensive zone penalties I have seen

Keep your stick down lul

Domi was being stupid on both of his and Bertuzzi apply same to Matthews

8 penalty minutes between the 3 of them not good


Going after the puck… From a net front battle

Again, those penalties never happen if they had one other guy actually give a sh1t
Apr. 20 at 10:59 p.m.
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A few talking points:

1. More poor decisions from Keefe. Jarnkrok on PP1, not pulling Sammy at the start of the last PP. Again he really seems to struggle to motivate the team and get them to play the right way at the right times.

2. Horrible officiating.

3. Jarnkrok and Holmberg stand out as two guys who played really poorly. Both honestly looked completely lost and had many turnovers. Robertson is the only guy on that line who can carry the puck. They knew that and kept stepping up on him but the other two couldn't capitalize on transition chances.

3. Knies looked great but Marner as always disappeared. He seemed completely lost out there.

4. Woll should start next game. Not blaming Sammy but he didn't do enough to win the next for the next game.

Thoughts?


Leafs played undisciplined so what more could Keefe do lul. This be on the players

3 offensive zone penalties by the top line says enough

Horrible officiating nothing new play through it you did against TBL

Nobody looked good that game cant really single much but the top line taking 4 penalties. Only line I got impressed with for a second was the 4th at times

Having that short of a leash on a goalie after one bad game will get us no where. What if Woll sucks then what? Sammy gets game 2 if team continues like this then Woll game 3
Apr. 20 at 11:00 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Wow lead us in shots did he score?

Who cares for shot attempts

We could lose in game 7 and Matthews could have 20 shot attempts does not matter

Scoring goals and winning is what matters

Matthews line taking 4 penalties 3 of which were in offensive zone = not good


And what did Marner do?

Give away, Give away, Give away, Goal, Goal, Give away, Give away, Give away, etc.

What did Holmberg do?

What did Kampf do? Scored, but caused goals against as well…

You can’t have 1 line going and the others don’t… That leads to frustration and penalties… Sounds familiar
Apr. 20 at 11:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Going after the puck… From a net front battle

Again, those penalties never happen if they had one other guy actually give a sh1t


Matthews, Domi and Bert all looked great.

Domi could tone it down a little but the call was really weak and Marchand ****ing sold it like an Oscar winning actor.
Apr. 20 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
And what did Marner do?

Give away, Give away, Give away, Goal, Goal, Give away, Give away, Give away, etc.

What did Holmberg do?

What did Kampf do? Scored, but caused goals against as well…

You can’t have 1 line going and the others don’t… That leads to frustration and penalties… Sounds familiar


Again your defending a line who was awful this entire game

3 offensive zone penalties and another undisciplined one = unacceptbale

They should all know better as 2 of them lead to BOS goals

How about instead of gifting Bos PP's smarten up lul
Apr. 20 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
A few talking points:

1. More poor decisions from Keefe. Jarnkrok on PP1, not pulling Sammy at the start of the last PP. Again he really seems to struggle to motivate the team and get them to play the right way at the right times.

2. Horrible officiating.

3. Jarnkrok and Holmberg stand out as two guys who played really poorly. Both honestly looked completely lost and had many turnovers. Robertson is the only guy on that line who can carry the puck. They knew that and kept stepping up on him but the other two couldn't capitalize on transition chances.

3. Knies looked great but Marner as always disappeared. He seemed completely lost out there.

4. Woll should start next game. Not blaming Sammy but he didn't do enough to win the next for the next game.

Thoughts?


No problem with Jarnkrok on PP1. He's probably the best option as a secondary triggerman with Nylander out. Really underrated shot.
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Apr. 20 at 11:03 p.m.
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Matthews, Domi and Bert all looked great.

Domi could tone it down a little but the call was really weak and Marchand ****ing sold it like an Oscar winning actor.


How is taking 4 penalties of which 3 were offensive zone penalties great lul.

If anything Domi's potentially gonna not be on that line if he keeps that **** up 100% guaranteed
Apr. 20 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
They’re playing like ****, not getting goalied.

Creating no dangerous chances


They were playing fine when I posted that, then it was a complete 180 and they looked like s***
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Apr. 20 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Leafs played undisciplined so what more could Keefe do lul. This be on the players

3 offensive zone penalties by the top line says enough

Horrible officiating nothing new play through it you did against TBL

Nobody looked good that game cant really single much but the top line taking 4 penalties. Only line I got impressed with for a second was the 4th at times

Having that short of a leash on a goalie after one bad game will get us no where. What if Woll sucks then what? Sammy gets game 2 if team continues like this then Woll game 3


If you think everyone was just bad then we watched a different game. Clearly there were issues but the Leafs out shot and out hit Boston. Moneypuck has the expected goals at 7.4 to 3.7 in favour of Toronto.

The lesson I take is that we need more of what we got from the first line. Boston was doing the same **** but since everyone does it nobody gets called. On Toronto it stands out when Domi or Bert do it cause nobody else does.

Also the two high sticks are complete flukes, wouldn't read into it.

In terms of the goalie. If it's going to be a tight checking defensive game then we need Woll. Sammy will give you the brilliant save that Woll won't but he also lets in a bunch of ****ty screenshots like 2 of the goals today that Woll rarely allows. I'd rather give up the 1 goal on a crazy play that Sammy would save and get stability that this team didn't have this game. That 2nd goal was a backbreaker. Never goes in on Woll.
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Apr. 20 at 11:06 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
No problem with Jarnkrok on PP1. He's probably the best option as a secondary triggerman with Nylander out. Really underrated shot.


Robertson is infinitely better. The PP died constantly on Jarnkrok's stick.
Apr. 20 at 11:07 p.m.
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How is taking 4 penalties of which 3 were offensive zone penalties great lul.

If anything Domi's potentially gonna not be on that line if he keeps that **** up 100% guaranteed


Two were high sticks (total flukes), the slash on Domi is a joke of a call. Can't remember the 4th but those guys played great. Matthews has 2 xG this game. Was solid
Apr. 20 at 11:08 p.m.
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People Matthews line was great

LUL.jpg

XGF 0.752 XGA 1.311 worst of the team

Surprise = 3rd line

XGF = 0.635 XGA = 0.294
Apr. 20 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
Robertson is infinitely better. The PP died constantly on Jarnkrok's stick.


He's also a lefty though and doesn't provide a one-time option if Matthews is occupying his usual spot. Jarnkrok is the best direct replacement for Willy.
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Apr. 20 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
He's also a lefty though and doesn't provide a one-time option if Matthews is occupying his usual spot. Jarnkrok is the best direct replacement for Willy.


If anything what I would try is switching JT and Bertuzzi again

Leafs PP ran at 50% when Bertuzzi was on unit 1 in February
Apr. 20 at 11:09 p.m.
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If anything what I would try is switching JT and Bertuzzi again


100%

There's plenty I'd change about the PP, but within the system they are running, Jarnkrok out there for Willy makes sense
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Apr. 20 at 11:12 p.m.
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100%

There's plenty I'd change about the PP, but within the system they are running, Jarnkrok out there for Willy makes sense


Yep like he's a little swiss army knife u can just throw in to different spots when needed

Everyone else is specialized. Now if McMann was there I would have tried him but he's hurt
Apr. 20 at 11:13 p.m.
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100%

There's plenty I'd change about the PP, but within the system they are running, Jarnkrok out there for Willy makes sense


It really doesn't aside from his handedness. He can't shoot, pass or carry the puck anywhere need good enough. Literally would rather put Reaves out there instead to just stand in front of the next.
Apr. 20 at 11:13 p.m.
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Im so curious whats wrong with Willy

He looked fine all season and if he was hurt why play him final 2 games. Yes Leafs were down guys but then go 11-7
Apr. 20 at 11:13 p.m.
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Yep like he's a little swiss army knife u can just throw in to different spots when needed

Everyone else is specialized. Now if McMann was there I would have tried him but he's hurt


Jarnkrok was so **** tonight and is clearly not at 100%.
Apr. 20 at 11:15 p.m.
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Jarnkrok was so **** tonight and is clearly not at 100%.


Didnt really find him bad at all.

The make shift line he was put on was not great as a whole, got bullied to easily

As sure good stats but eye test said otherwise.

He should be 4th line with Dewar and Kampf once Nylander's back game 2
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Apr. 20 at 11:17 p.m.
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Anyone else kind of want to experiment with a loaded second line just to see if it works and also to try and generate more

Nylander-JT-Marner

Not saying I want to but with how BOS just contained all the dangerous stuff maybe loading up a line aint a bad idea like they did for years

You will still have the Matthews line and others but yea for game 2 might be worth a look
Apr. 20 at 11:18 p.m.
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It really doesn't aside from his handedness. He can't shoot, pass or carry the puck anywhere need good enough. Literally would rather put Reaves out there instead to just stand in front of the next.


???

Jarnkrok has a wicked shot. Really underrated. His passing is adequate though unspectacular and he doesn't really need to be the puck carrier on PP1.

The Reaves thing is either a clear exaggeration or you're beyond reason.
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Apr. 20 at 11:26 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
???

Jarnkrok has a wicked shot. Really underrated. His passing is adequate though unspectacular and he doesn't really need to be the puck carrier on PP1.

The Reaves thing is either a clear exaggeration or you're beyond reason.


Reaves tonight just was a ? for me as besides Maroon nobody gonna fight him and we got other deturrents on the ice so his use his kind of mute.

Now if he ran over Swayman or did something to Marchand/Pasta then hey the use is done

But yea would rather have anyone but him on the ice game 2 as while he did help with the goal he's just not worth keeping out if anything were handicapping ourselves
 
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