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couple trade ideas

Created by: Boodin
Team: 2024-25 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 27, 2024
Published: Mar. 27, 2024
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Does the Philly trade make sense, or just gamble at the draft. This deal would be made after the lottery assuming OTT is to low (6,7) to draft Levshunov. Should they target Parekh/BPA or trade for an older/NHL ready player
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,250,000
3$2,200,000
2$1,100,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
5$4,000,000
3$1,650,000
2$1,400,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Bonk, Oliver
  2. Laughton, Scott
  3. 2024 1st round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
assuming chych extends its chych for a late first and laughton and bonk for top 10 pick, is it fair?
PHI
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
2.
PIT
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Norris, Joshua
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (OTT)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
if this is enough for pens for a jarry trade, maybe also include korpi/rakell swap for change of scenery? will add in separate trade.
3.
4.
OTT
  1. 2025 5th round pick (VAN)
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
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RFA - 1
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UFA - 4
$1,650,000$1,650,000
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UFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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Mar. 27 at 1:21 p.m.
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No one is taking on that Korpisalo contract
Mar. 27 at 1:22 p.m.
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I really don't think Jarry is the answer to your problems.
I would think keeping Korp and adding Brossoit is a much better idea long term.
Jarry has a larger and longer cap and might be the most bi-polar goalie in the NHL when it comes to being amazing or awful.
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Mar. 27 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
I really don't think Jarry is the answer to your problems.
I would think keeping Korp and adding Brossoit is a much better idea long term.
Jarry has a larger and longer cap and might be the most bi-polar goalie in the NHL when it comes to being amazing or awful.

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No one is taking on that Korpisalo contract


Yep Pierre really gave us a treat before he got canned
Mar. 27 at 1:26 p.m.
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Yep Pierre really gave us a treat before he got canned


I also dont think ottawa should take on the Rakell contract
Mar. 27 at 1:29 p.m.
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I also dont think ottawa should take on the Rakell contract


yea fair i was just spit balling ideas, main trade i wanted feedback from was the philly one to see if that made sense and what would either side change
Mar. 27 at 1:31 p.m.
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I think the only way you move Korpisalo is for a similar toxic contract. I don't think Rakell qualifies.

Also definitely don't see a fit between Torts and Chychrun.
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Mar. 27 at 1:32 p.m.
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I think the only way you move Korpisalo is for a similar toxic contract. I don't think Rakell qualifies.

Also definitely don't see a fit between Torts and Chychrun.


ah right i did not think of that
Mar. 27 at 1:51 p.m.
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I would definitely do that deal with Philly if they offered it which means it's probably favored towards us lol. The Philly pick will probably be like 17-20, and our pick looks like it's gonna be like 8-10 because we can't tank properly. So it'd be Laughton + 18 for example for Chych, and pick 9 for Bonk. I think we'd have to add something like Jarventie or Boucher, or a toss them a couple of those 4ths lol.

If Pitts doesn't want Korpi I'd also rather just buy him out and send a contract to Sprong or someone like that to play 3rd line RW.

I'd be really happy with this team going into next season tho.
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Mar. 27 at 2:14 p.m.
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holy **** seriously, that philly trade is so bad for OTT the NHL would fold the team rather than let it go through.

Bonk is not worth a top 10 pick, NO PROSPECT is worth a top 10 pick because THEY ARE PROSPECTS, they have not played a single game in the NHL and potential is meaningless in this discussion.

Norris is going nowhere, is he is healthy he plays if he is injured he is LTIR.
Mar. 27 at 2:22 p.m.
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holy **** seriously, that philly trade is so bad for OTT the NHL would fold the team rather than let it go through.

Bonk is not worth a top 10 pick, NO PROSPECT is worth a top 10 pick because THEY ARE PROSPECTS, they have not played a single game in the NHL and potential is meaningless in this discussion.

Norris is going nowhere, is he is healthy he plays if he is injured he is LTIR.


very contradicting statement considering you're using picks to draft prospects lol
Mar. 27 at 2:30 p.m.
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very contradicting statement considering you're using picks to draft prospects lol


i said top 10 pick, maybe if you read you wont make uninformed comments.
Mar. 27 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
holy **** seriously, that philly trade is so bad for OTT the NHL would fold the team rather than let it go through.

Bonk is not worth a top 10 pick, NO PROSPECT is worth a top 10 pick because THEY ARE PROSPECTS, they have not played a single game in the NHL and potential is meaningless in this discussion.

Norris is going nowhere, is he is healthy he plays if he is injured he is LTIR.


I'm very confused myself. So no prospect is worth a top 10 draft pick...but top 10 draft picks are worth more than prospects?
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Mar. 27 at 2:46 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 27 at 2:54 p.m.
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I'm very confused myself. So no prospect is worth a top 10 draft pick...but top 10 draft picks are worth more than prospects?


i should clarify for those with low IQ, MATVEI MICHKOV was drafted 7th OA, does that mean that if phily was to want to trade him a team would fork over a top 10 pick for him? the answer is a resounding NO, no team would, even if ANA KNEW for 100% certainty their pick this year would be 7th OA (they currently 29th) they would not have traded it for Cutter.

no prospect i worth a top 10 pick because VERY few p[layers in the NHL are themselves worth a top 10 pick.
Mar. 27 at 2:48 p.m.
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why do all Sens fans think VAN wants Kastelic????
Mar. 27 at 2:57 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 27 at 3:06 p.m.
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i should clarify for those with low IQ, MATVEI MICHKOV was drafted 7th OA, does that mean that if phily was to want to trade him a team would fork over a top 10 pick for him? the answer is a resounding NO, no team would, even if ANA KNEW for 100% certainty their pick this year would be 7th OA (they currently 29th) they would not have traded it for Cutter.

no prospect i worth a top 10 pick because VERY few p[layers in the NHL are themselves worth a top 10 pick.


I know little about Michov other than what I read about him being probably the 2nd best overall prospect but because he expressed desire to only play in the NHL for certain markets, some teams passed on him. But if your opinion is that a high end prospect would never be worth a set top 10 pick, that is utterly insane. 99+% of NHL players do not get drafted and play in the NHL the year they are drafted. And prospects carry less risk than draft picks.
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Mar. 27 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: jfkst1
I know little about Michov other than what I read about him being probably the 2nd best overall prospect but because he expressed desire to only play in the NHL for certain markets, some teams passed on him. But if your opinion is that a high end prospect would never be worth a set top 10 pick, that is utterly insane. 99+% of NHL players do not get drafted and play in the NHL the every next year. And prospects carry less risk than draft picks.


its not an opinion, it is FACT, teams rarely trade top 10 picks now for established top players, they certainly are not going to trade them for prospects.
Mar. 27 at 3:13 p.m.
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its not an opinion, it is FACT, teams rarely trade top 10 picks now for established top players, they certainly are not going to trade them for prospects.


Your logic falls off a cliff because teams that have top 10 picks rarely trade the top 10 pick because they are not good and usually have years before they will be competitive again. Prospects are closer to the NHL than draft picks.
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Mar. 27 at 3:24 p.m.
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why do all Sens fans think VAN wants Kastelic????


iv seen him in a few van acgms so i always add it
Mar. 27 at 3:25 p.m.
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i should clarify for those with low IQ, MATVEI MICHKOV was drafted 7th OA, does that mean that if phily was to want to trade him a team would fork over a top 10 pick for him? the answer is a resounding NO, no team would, even if ANA KNEW for 100% certainty their pick this year would be 7th OA (they currently 29th) they would not have traded it for Cutter.

no prospect i worth a top 10 pick because VERY few p[layers in the NHL are themselves worth a top 10 pick.


insane take
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Mar. 27 at 4:53 p.m.
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i don't think trading away Bonk fits into Briere's plan
Mar. 27 at 5:34 p.m.
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I'd do it of PHI replaces Laughton with Cates
Mar. 27 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Boodin
insane take


Quoting: jfkst1
Your logic falls off a cliff because teams that have top 10 picks rarely trade the top 10 pick because they are not good and usually have years before they will be competitive again. Prospects are closer to the NHL than draft picks.


Does this whole thing remind anyone else of that scene from Family Guy where Peter takes the 'mystery box' over a boat because "a boats a boat, but the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!" What an insane take.

https://youtu.be/yZpIog7e-R4?si=2FK6sHLse8AINGsg
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Mar. 28 at 11:19 a.m.
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i should clarify for those with low IQ, MATVEI MICHKOV was drafted 7th OA, does that mean that if phily was to want to trade him a team would fork over a top 10 pick for him? the answer is a resounding NO, no team would, even if ANA KNEW for 100% certainty their pick this year would be 7th OA (they currently 29th) they would not have traded it for Cutter.

no prospect i worth a top 10 pick because VERY few p[layers in the NHL are themselves worth a top 10 pick.


I would give our first for Michkov and not even think twice about it lol.
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Mar. 31 at 3:27 a.m.
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holy **** seriously, that philly trade is so bad for OTT the NHL would fold the team rather than let it go through.

Bonk is not worth a top 10 pick, NO PROSPECT is worth a top 10 pick because THEY ARE PROSPECTS, they have not played a single game in the NHL and potential is meaningless in this discussion.

Norris is going nowhere, is he is healthy he plays if he is injured he is LTIR.


you are so insanely biased in all your posts it's actually kinda scary
 
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