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Created by: MyTeamsSuck
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 22, 2024
Published: Apr. 22, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
In this case draft goes:

Celebrini- SJS
Levshunov- CHI
Demidov- ANA
Lindstrom- CBJ
Iginla- MTL
Silayev- ARI
Parakh- OTT
Dickinson- SEA
Catton- CGY
Yakemchuk- CGY (NJD)

Flames sign Kylington to a 2 year 2 mill contract
Wolf resigns at 1.4 mill/3 years
Pelts resigns at 1 mill/2 years
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Yakemchuk, Carter
3$950,000
Catton, Berkley
3$950,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Markström, Jacob ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
2.
CGY
  1. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew ($2,000,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$72,049,957$0$1,092,500$11,450,043

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
RW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
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$823,333$823,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Apr. 22 at 9:10 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Trying reading the rest of the thread before making idiotic comments. If they aren't willing to pay for Marky they won't be able to afford Ulmark or (dream on) Saros either.


We're not paying a 10OA pick for Ullmark either.
5 yrs younger, and playing better than Markey. We have $21M next yr so retention not needed, if so it won't be giving up this yrs 1st. It's just all common swnse
Apr. 22 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
We're not paying a 10OA pick for Ullmark either.
5 yrs younger, and playing better than Markey. We have $21M next yr so retention not needed, if so it won't be giving up this yrs 1st. It's just all common swnse


Yall are just destined to have bad goaltending forever man 💀. For your sake I pray Fitzgerald has a better concept of asset costs, it’s the only way this team will have good goaltending going into its window of contention.
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Apr. 22 at 9:33 p.m.
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Yall are just destined to have bad goaltending forever man 💀. For your sake I pray Fitzgerald has a better concept of asset costs, it’s the only way this team will have good goaltending going into its window of contention.


Ullmark for a '25 1st and 3rd
Apr. 22 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
Ullmark for a '25 1st and 3rd


Ullmark for a first is wild 💀. Reigning Vézina winner for a single first. If that was all it took EDM, or COL would have him rn. A third doesn’t make up that gap.
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Apr. 22 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: MyTeamsSuck
Ullmark for a first is wild 💀. Reigning Vézina winner for a single first. If that was all it took EDM, or COL would have him rn. A third doesn’t make up that gap.


Go scour these posting by Bs fans. That's many of what has been posted. I'd add on that for reason you said. But not a 10 OA, even they aren't asking for that.
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Apr. 22 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
Go scour these posting by Bs fans. That's many of what has been posted. I'd add on that for reason you said. But not a 10 OA, even they aren't asking for that.


That's without retention and Ulmark doesn't have 2 years left on his contract either.
Apr. 22 at 10:01 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
That's without retention and Ulmark doesn't have 2 years left on his contract either.


We don't need retention now. You're right on yrs and when it was 2+ what was the return? Would you give the 10th OA for Holtz, because that's what you're asking NJ to do. Also Ullmark is 5 yrs younger. I'm fine with Markstrom, not for this yrs 1st.
Apr. 22 at 10:08 p.m.
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Apr. 22 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
3 years of Palat at 6 mil per and 2 mil retention each on Markstrom and Mangiapane? No deal!


My bad didn't realize Palat had 3 years left that's brutal... that being said, you guys are rebuilding, not retooling, correct? Better to tank hard for 3 years and be actual contenders than be in no man's land for the next 10, no?
Apr. 22 at 10:36 p.m.
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Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey
I really like that Markstrom deal for both parties, I wonder if the Devils are serious about contending next year you merge the two deals into something like this:

NJD receives: Markstrom (2M retained), Mangiapane (2M retained), 2024 2nd RP (DAL)
CAL receives: Schmid, Palat (to make cap work), 2024 1st RP (NJD)


Long term its not smart Jack is 22 Luke and Nemec are 20 why trade a top 10 pick for a goalie whos close to retirement when half the core isnt even in their prime
Apr. 22 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Schuyler
Long term its not smart Jack is 22 Luke and Nemec are 20 why trade a top 10 pick for a goalie whos close to retirement when half the core isnt even in their prime


Fair points, I guess I'm higher on the Devils than most, with a healthy team and a true #1 goalie I could lowkey see them winning the division. A top 10 pick is great, but it also comes with a lot of risk. Personally I'd rather find a surefire way to fill a desperate need when the future of the Devils' forward/defense core already look pretty solid.
Apr. 22 at 11:12 p.m.
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Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey
Fair points, I guess I'm higher on the Devils than most, with a healthy team and a true #1 goalie I could lowkey see them winning the division. A top 10 pick is great, but it also comes with a lot of risk. Personally I'd rather find a surefire way to fill a desperate need when the future of the Devils' forward/defense core already look pretty solid.


I'm literally a devils fan they don't need Markstrom at a historic overpay why waste a premium asset on such a fickle position when the window is just opening.
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Apr. 22 at 11:51 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 23 at 12:00 a.m.
Quoting: Smitty426
We don't need retention now. You're right on yrs and when it was 2+ what was the return? Would you give the 10th OA for Holtz, because that's what you're asking NJ to do. Also Ullmark is 5 yrs younger. I'm fine with Markstrom, not for this yrs 1st.


Don't be ridiculous the original offer from NJ wasn't just Holtz. It was Holtz + Casey + NJ 2024 1st for Marky with retention.

From https://www.spectorshockey.net/2024/04/sunday-nhl-rumor-roundup-april-21-2024/

SPECTOR’S NOTE: It’s rumored Flames ownership spiked the Markstrom trade to New Jersey because Calgary was still in the hunt for a playoff spot. There was also speculation that Conroy set a high asking price from the Devils including Dawson Mercer or Alexander Holtz, top prospect Seamus Casey and a first-round pick.

Even New Jersey fan sites agree that's probably what the deal Flames ownership shot down was. But hey keep dreaming and fantasizing about other teams giving you the top goalie your team so desperately needs at a lowball price.

If your GM doesn't get a decent goalie soon you'll all be crying he needs to be fired and replaced by some imaginary GM who can magically turn a bag of pucks into a young top goalie on a terrific long term contract.
Apr. 23 at 12:00 a.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Don't be ridiculous the original offer from NJ wasn't just Holtz. It was Holtz + Casey + NJ 2024 1st for Marky with retention.

From https://www.spectorshockey.net/2024/04/sunday-nhl-rumor-roundup-april-21-2024/

SPECTOR’S NOTE: It’s rumored Flames ownership spiked the Markstrom trade to New Jersey because Calgary was still in the hunt for a playoff spot. There was also speculation that Conroy set a high asking price from the Devils including Dawson Mercer or Alexander Holtz, top prospect Seamus Casey and a first-round pick.

Even New Jersey fan sites agree that's probably what the deal Flames ownership shot down was. But keep ignoring everything that doesn't match your dreams.


"There was also speculation"
But you go on believing that. Go look up what San Jose Fans had coming their way for Timo Meier last year. Then look at the return. They did good but NO WHERE NEAR what their fanbase expected. Did Conroy try and get another Lindholm trade, sure! But Fitz was never going that away.
Go pedal your guy elsewhere, but when he's gone lets just see how close he was to this insane ask. I'll be here.
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