Not gonna lie, I do not understand why Minnesota would trade Rossi... what am I missing? I'm super confused.

Agreed. Guy has a break out year and NOW they want to trade him?

This type of methodology screams, selling high at first opportunity. Meaning he's not worth what the perception is of him.

Guerin values and prioritizes size/grit. That's pretty much what it boils down to.

He believes the team needs to have more of an edge/nastiness to it. Not saying you or anyone else needs to agree, but that's the reasoning. It has nothing to do with his value being less than what's perceived.

That's what I assumed was the core reason for it but figured any GM making that somewhat known to other Gm's would be an absolute moron for doing so. In the game of business and negotiations, that is devaluing your own asset. No team would give you remotely what Guerin thinks he's worth then. Why would they? Whats the worst that will happen? Guerin will keep the asset that doesn't fit his team identity indefinitely? Risking devaluing him in the process? Hence why trying to sell him while his stock is at its highest.

This is just a theory based on the idea that he's actively being shopped of course. If Guerin is fine just keeping him until someone pays up, then there really isn't any smoke to this. Just a random rumor based on a team willing to listen and not reject instantaneously like others would normally do.

AND he has another ELC year remaining. Unless it's a size preference thing, this makes no sense. Even then, it's dumb. Maybe he wants out for some reason?

Wood is transferring to Minnesota
Wood is being traded to Minnesota

Both can happen

Your theory about that tanking his value is incorrect, as has been observed extensively in any equity market such as stocks or housing. That would be true if all GMs were in cooperation against Guerin, but they're not. They're in competition with each other, as well. The price only needs to reach the point where the highest bidder feels like they're getting good value.

But you are correct in that Guerin is essentially telling the market what he does/doesn't value. Not a great strategy by textbook standards, but honestly, in today's NHL these GMs are all pals and really don't gouge each other the way you'd think. For the most part, they try and make fair deals. There's enough precedent around young players getting traded, that it's gonna be pretty formulaic. Team A gets Player X and Team B gets Player Y + Draft Pick Z.

Hmm I still disagree with that first sentiment. NHL trading is different than stocks and the housing market but yes I do agree with the old boys club mentality of the GM's. I didn't mean to imply that teams were now going to bend Guerin over backwards as a result. More so that, in a vacuum, a player like Rossi after the season he had would reach a level of perceived value that would force other teams to start a higher starting point for negotiations. Making him available (With realistic expectations and not just "listening"), automatically changes the dynamic of that negotiation.

Again I didn't mean that now Minny would need to accept the first crap offer thrown at them and I agree 100% with the Team A gets Player X and Team B gets Player Y + Draft Pick Z assertion. The real question I was hinting to is what would be the difference between the hypothetical scenario mentioned above vs if Rossi was not being actively shopped. IMHO I think there would be a decent amount of value lost as a result.

A similar but not exact example of this was Philly with Gauthier. What would Philly have got in return if Gauthier never wanted out and they were just listening to teams offers? Different circumstance than with Rossi obviously but a parallel can be made.

Gauthier is not a good parallel at all. He was not under contract with PHI and outright said he would not sign. Rossi, however, has a contractual obligation with the Minnesota Wild and does not have an ounce of say in the matter. There is an iron clad legal difference between the two situations. That has exponentially more to do with trade price than whether or not a GM "made the player available."

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here, and we can revisit the value if he does get dealt this summer.

The point would be that both GM's were selling from a point of weakness. Gauthier because he was not going to sign with Philly and Rossi with the fact that it seems he's not a Guerin guy and he keep him despite him playing well. The actual exact details are not the same as i said, obviously. Similar only that one sense.

For sure we'll find out if he's gung ho on moving him. Hope he moves past the size thing and keeps him. He's finally turning into the player he was drafted to be.

But the relative points of weakness aren't even remotely close to one another, and that's assuming Guerin is even dealing from a point of weakness to begin with. Which, I don't agree that he is. That's fine if you do, but it's hardly indisputable like it was in the case of Briere/Gauthier.

The entire argument is propped up on the opinion that once a GM a makes a player available, he damages his negotiating power to a significant enough degree that you're pointing it out. No issue with you having that stance, but that isn't a fact.

And agree - moving him for size/grit reasons would be quite dumb. Rossi plays hard and tough, I don't get Guerin's obsession with trying to be the nastiest team in the league.

Its not a concrete rule as it may sound like im trying to make it but look at it from the perspective of the other users on here. Everyone's instant reaction would be why? That doesn't make sense. That's because it doesn't. That's the factor that changes the negotiation power and leverage.

He shouldn't even be available. If this was virtually any other market, you'd get the generic " laughs and hangs up" kind of comment. Logic dictates if Guerin isn't taking that stance with a player that 99% of other Gm's would, there is something wrong with the player. (There isn't - he's just smaller than he likes players) but seeing as any GM would come to that conclusion, Guerin is putting himself in a corner where he has to move him. Unless of course, as I mentioned previously, its not an actual rumor and he's perfectly fine keeping in Minny. I'm only basing this opinion on the idea that he is actively looking to trade him.