SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive

Created by: OldNYIfan
Team: 2024-25 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2024
Published: Apr. 25, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Utah's new owner says that he and his wife want their team to be competitive right out of the box, so I expect them to aggressively pursue free agents in the off season. I don't expect them to be able to land any of the big names (Guentzel, Lindholm, Reinhart, Pesce, Roy) but I'll take Chandler Stephenson or Sean Monahan at $5.5 million for however many years they want and Jonathan Marchessault or Tyler Toffoli at $6 million for however many years they want. (If Utah can't land one of the latter, maybe they can sign Jake DeBrusk for up to $5 million.) Brady Skjei should like his number and term.

None of the current crop of free-agent goaltenders appealed to me, at least for Utah.

Toronto fans are always insisting that Timothy Liljegren is worth more than a second, so, here's twice that.

Utah puts an end to the previous regime's Barrett Hayton mistake; Habs fans keep telling everyone that Jordan Harris or Jayden Struble has to go. I'll take either.

A couple of recent first-round draft picks signed off the Reserve List even though I don't think that will happen this season; I'm just doing this so no one forgets who's in the pipeline.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,000,000
1$2,800,000
2$2,000,000
2$2,000,000
1$2,000,000
2$1,300,000
2$850,000
2$813,750
2$813,750
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,500,000
3$6,000,000
5$5,500,000
2$950,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Buium, Zeev
3$975,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Liljegren, Timothy [RFA Rights]
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (FLA)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
ARI
  1. Struble, Jayden
MTL
  1. Hayton, Barrett [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the COL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the ARI
2025
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
2026
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
Logo of the ARI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$81,022,143$0$4,407,500$6,477,857
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Keller, Clayton
$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Stephenson, Chandler
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, LW
UFA
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Schmaltz, Nick
$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Crouse, Lawson
$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Waivers ExemptCooley, Logan
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
C
RFA - 2
Toffoli, Tyler
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Maccelli, Matias
$3,425,000$3,425,000
LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
McBain, Jack
$1,599,999$1,599,999
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Waivers ExemptGuenther, Dylan
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Bjugstad, Nick
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Waivers ExemptDoan, Josh
$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Carcone, Michael
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
O'Brien, Liam
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Skjei, Brady
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
UFA
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Durzi, Sean
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Vejmelka, Karel
$2,725,000$2,725,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Välimäki, Juuso
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
RFA
Liljegren, Timothy
$2,800,000$2,800,000
RD
RFA
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Ingram, Connor
$1,950,000$1,950,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Moser, J.J.
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Waivers ExemptKesselring, Michael
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
RFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
Waivers ExemptStruble, Jayden
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Apr. 25 at 11:45 p.m.
#1
DeclanLovesHockey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 101
Likes: 37
As much as I love Lilly leafs would be stupid not to accept that
OldNYIfan liked this.
Apr. 25 at 11:49 p.m.
#2
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey
As much as I love Lilly leafs would be stupid not to accept that


Can't see any reason Lily would be worth less than Sandy. Being right handed should mean a better return.
Would look like:
2 early 2nds (top 40), both in same year
late 1st + late 2nd (dif years)

Besides, it isn't just a value issue. Why would the Leafs do this? How does this help them? We have been looking for RHD for years and now you want to jettison the homegrown one for picks?
Apr. 25 at 11:56 p.m.
#3
MontysPython
Player Model Maker
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2022
Posts: 1,118
Likes: 510
Quoting: Random2152
Can't see any reason Lily would be worth less than Sandy. Being right handed should mean a better return.
Would look like:
2 early 2nds (top 40), both in same year
late 1st + late 2nd (dif years)

Besides, it isn't just a value issue. Why would the Leafs do this? How does this help them? We have been looking for RHD for years and now you want to jettison the homegrown one for picks?


flip the picks?
Apr. 25 at 11:57 p.m.
#4
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: MontysPython
flip the picks?


For what? A young RHD?
Apr. 25 at 11:59 p.m.
#5
MontysPython
Player Model Maker
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2022
Posts: 1,118
Likes: 510
Quoting: Random2152
For what? A young RHD?


a vet RHD with playoff experience`\/(••)\/`
Apr. 26 at 12:01 a.m.
#6
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: MontysPython
a vet RHD with playoff experience`\/(••)\/`


And why would we need to move Liljegren for that exactly?
And more importantly, why wouldn't we just make that swap directly? Either in a 2 or 3 team deal?

It simply doesn't make sense. We need a boat. We have a boat and you're offering the mystery box
Apr. 26 at 1:11 a.m.
#7
Birtle34
Bandwagon fairweathe
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 7,672
Likes: 3,281
Will be interesting to see how quick geekie comes, much rather slot Maccelli and Guenther higher, possibly a spot to sell on Crouse and or schmaultz, like the Stephenson add, might be slotted a little high and maybe a little too much term, but solid add. Not sure toffoli is the right add here, little light on foot speed, very good streaky scorer, but his window may not extend long enough, good vet, but don’t want to block the kids coming. Could be one crazy summer here, with possibly moving some cap, ridiculous amount of cap to start with and abundance of picks also. Possibly a spot for a werenski or chabot to find a home, could get rather creative and possibly a laine home, but that’s a no agreement on here proposition.
OldNYIfan liked this.
Apr. 26 at 6:24 a.m.
#8
jonh514
HuGo is a Boss GM
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2021
Posts: 7,074
Likes: 3,082
Habs would be silly to refuse that offer!
OldNYIfan liked this.
Apr. 26 at 7:07 a.m.
#9
GuyGuyGuy
Prime Primeau
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2023
Posts: 5,486
Likes: 2,180
Quoting: Random2152
Can't see any reason Lily would be worth less than Sandy. Being right handed should mean a better return.
Would look like:
2 early 2nds (top 40), both in same year
late 1st + late 2nd (dif years)

Besides, it isn't just a value issue. Why would the Leafs do this? How does this help them? We have been looking for RHD for years and now you want to jettison the homegrown one for picks?


There’s one huge reason, age. Liljegren is 25 while Sandin was 22. Both are pretty much the same talent, but Sandin can actually develop in something more. Liljegren won’t improve unless there’s a massive surprise. The best trade comp is Siegenthaler to New Jersey for a third, so Toronto would be lucky to get a late second for him
Apr. 26 at 8:43 a.m.
#10
DeclanLovesHockey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 101
Likes: 37
Quoting: Random2152
And why would we need to move Liljegren for that exactly?
And more importantly, why wouldn't we just make that swap directly? Either in a 2 or 3 team deal?

It simply doesn't make sense. We need a boat. We have a boat and you're offering the mystery box


The problem is that Liljegren is in no mans land between a good third pairing dman and a mediocre second pairing dman. I don't see his ceiling being much higher than that. The Leafs can't afford to pay him second pair money when he's giving us third pair results. The 2nds can be used to make a cost-effective TDL move or draft talent like Knies, who becomes cap-controlled on an ELC. To use your metaphor, we would have to overpay for a leaky boat when we could jump ship and swim a short distance to several sturdier, cheaper boats.
OldNYIfan liked this.
Apr. 26 at 3:27 p.m.
#11
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
There’s one huge reason, age. Liljegren is 25 while Sandin was 22. Both are pretty much the same talent, but Sandin can actually develop in something more. Liljegren won’t improve unless there’s a massive surprise. The best trade comp is Siegenthaler to New Jersey for a third, so Toronto would be lucky to get a late second for him


Theyre like the same age lmao.

And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D
Apr. 26 at 3:29 p.m.
#12
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey
The problem is that Liljegren is in no mans land between a good third pairing dman and a mediocre second pairing dman. I don't see his ceiling being much higher than that. The Leafs can't afford to pay him second pair money when he's giving us third pair results. The 2nds can be used to make a cost-effective TDL move or draft talent like Knies, who becomes cap-controlled on an ELC. To use your metaphor, we would have to overpay for a leaky boat when we could jump ship and swim a short distance to several sturdier, cheaper boats.


The dude is keefes most played D when we are trying to hold a lead, and also while were trailing. He also has been putting up strong results.

I think the issue here is just that your eval is off lmao
Apr. 26 at 4:43 p.m.
#13
DeclanLovesHockey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 101
Likes: 37
Quoting: Random2152
Theyre like the same age lmao.

And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D


Yeah he plays top 4 mins on a team that uses Ilya Lyubushkin as a top pairing defenseman... Where he plays in the lineup is irrelevant, the fact of the matter is he just isn't as good as we need a top 4 dman to be on this team and he's not gonna magically improve into one. This is coming from a guy who likes Lilly and wishes we could sign him to a 4 x 2.5 AAV. His skillset is a dime a dozen: pretty good offensively, ok defensively, not that physical. Only thing that is valuable is his right shot.
OldNYIfan liked this.
Apr. 26 at 5:17 p.m.
#14
GuyGuyGuy
Prime Primeau
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2023
Posts: 5,486
Likes: 2,180
Quoting: Random2152
Theyre like the same age lmao.

And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D

Liljegren just turned 25. Sandin was 22 at the time of the trade. Shows your hockey knowledge there.

Liljegren play top 4 minutes, but boy is he bad in those minutes. Sandin was mostly playing bottom pairing minutes, but he was good in those
Apr. 26 at 5:22 p.m.
#15
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey
Yeah he plays top 4 mins on a team that uses Ilya Lyubushkin as a top pairing defenseman... Where he plays in the lineup is irrelevant, the fact of the matter is he just isn't as good as we need a top 4 dman to be on this team and he's not gonna magically improve into one. This is coming from a guy who likes Lilly and wishes we could sign him to a 4 x 2.5 AAV. His skillset is a dime a dozen: pretty good offensively, ok defensively, not that physical. Only thing that is valuable is his right shot.


Boosh is not being played as a top pair D lmao. That you even think that shows you have no idea what you're talking about
Apr. 26 at 5:22 p.m.
#16
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Liljegren just turned 25. Sandin was 22 at the time of the trade. Shows your hockey knowledge there.

Liljegren play top 4 minutes, but boy is he bad in those minutes. Sandin was mostly playing bottom pairing minutes, but he was good in those


Sandy and Lily are currently the same age. Pay attention.
And Lily has been good in T-4 mins. Thinking otherwise shows your lack of knowledge
Apr. 26 at 5:29 p.m.
#17
DeclanLovesHockey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 101
Likes: 37
Quoting: Random2152
Sandy and Lily are currently the same age. Pay attention.
And Lily has been good in T-4 mins. Thinking otherwise shows your lack of knowledge


Ah yes he's been so good that he's not even in the lineup for Game 4. Imagine being so bad your spot gets taken by TJ Brodie...
Apr. 26 at 5:39 p.m.
#18
DeclanLovesHockey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 101
Likes: 37
Quoting: Random2152
Boosh is not being played as a top pair D lmao. That you even think that shows you have no idea what you're talking about


https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/toronto-maple-leafs/line-combinations - top pair is typically the pair at the top, correct?
Apr. 26 at 5:46 p.m.
#19
Random2152
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,336
Likes: 5,672
Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/toronto-maple-leafs/line-combinations - top pair is typically the pair at the top, correct?


If you think a lineup card denotes usage. You're opinion on anything hockey is worthless
Apr. 26 at 5:52 p.m.
#20
DeclanLovesHockey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 101
Likes: 37
Quoting: Random2152
If you think a lineup card denotes usage. You're opinion on anything hockey is worthless


Why you heff to be mad? Just game man
Apr. 26 at 5:54 p.m.
#21
GM_SZK
Puckhead
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2023
Posts: 1,232
Likes: 349
Wow if they gave two 5ths for Liljegren I would be shocked, how could that even slightly move the needle?

I do agree with you that they will be aggressive but far more aggressive than what you have.
Apr. 26 at 5:57 p.m.
#22
MontysPython
Player Model Maker
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2022
Posts: 1,118
Likes: 510
Quoting: Random2152
And why would we need to move Liljegren for that exactly?
And more importantly, why wouldn't we just make that swap directly? Either in a 2 or 3 team deal?

It simply doesn't make sense. We need a boat. We have a boat and you're offering the mystery box


some teams don't want a Liljegren and want a pick. Not saying this acgm is ideal, but it's true that some teams don't want a Liljegren. Anyway, just trying to rationalize this acgm's reasoning.
Apr. 26 at 5:59 p.m.
#23
OldNYIfan
Thread Starter
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 40,581
Likes: 25,436
Quoting: GM_SZK
Wow if they gave two 5ths for Liljegren I would be shocked, how could that even slightly move the needle?

I do agree with you that they will be aggressive but far more aggressive than what you have.

Get your ocular prescription checked. It's two seconds.
Apr. 26 at 6:04 p.m.
#24
GM_SZK
Puckhead
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2023
Posts: 1,232
Likes: 349
Quoting: OldNYIfan
Get your ocular prescription checked. It's two seconds.


Well my vision is awful but what did I do lol I thought fora minute I had a goofy typo?

The poster traded for two seconds and I countered with I would be surprised if they gave two fifths

Please explain?
Apr. 26 at 6:11 p.m.
#25
OldNYIfan
Thread Starter
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 40,581
Likes: 25,436
Quoting: GM_SZK
Well my vision is awful but what did I do lol I thought fora minute I had a goofy typo?

The poster traded for two seconds and I countered with I would be surprised if they gave two fifths

Please explain?

Liljegren has some value. I think that two seconds is probably high but I wanted to pre-empt the outraged screams of Toronto homers claiming he's as good as Bowen Byram. (One such in particular has said that he's worth two top-40 picks.) I thought your comment was criticizing me for saying that he was only worth two fifths.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll