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Duchene in/out; JVR; Contracts out & plenty of Cap Space

Created by: jluqueSF
Initial Creation Date: Aug 9, 2017
Published: Aug 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm
Team: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
COL gets a puck moving DEF, and 3 young F's, a young D, and a 1st round pick

PHIL gets cap relief from Jori, gives up 2 young players for a better #2C, and potential Simmonds replacement in a 1/2 years

NJ gets a pick for taking on short term garbage

CAR gets their LW, teams up with Brother, cant afford another DEF under 25, TOR needs one

TOR flexes $ muscle and buys out Jori

Defence upgraded, $ saved, Space for Kapenen/Rychel's of the world. Leafs don't need $ now or picks, so use them
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brown, Connor2$2,350,000
Zadorov, Nikita4$2,875,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. 2018 5th round pick (COL)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Rights to Zadorov
COL
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Bracco, Jeremy
  3. Lindberg, Tobias
  4. Leivo, Josh
  5. Borgman, Andreas
  6. 2018 1st round pick (TOR)
  7. 2020 6th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Sanheim, Travis
  2. Konecny, Travis
  3. Lehterä, Jori ($500,000 retained)
  4. 2018 2nd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. 2018 6th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2018 7th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Fehr, Eric
  2. Smith, Ben
  3. 2018 3rd round pick (SJS)
TOR
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. Di Giuseppe, Phillip
CAR
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Marincin, Martin
Buyouts
  • Tim Gleason: $1,333,333
  • Jared Cowen: $750,000
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
  • Jori Lehterä: $1,616,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
TOR
SJS
PHI
TOR
TOR
COL
TOR
ANA
NJD
2019
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2020
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
COL
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$65,815,834$5,370,000$6,012,500$9,184,166
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Marleau, Patrick
$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
Matthews, Auston
$925,000
C
UFA - 2
Nylander, William
$894,167
RW, C
UFA - 1
Konecny, Travis
$894,167
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Bozak, Tyler
$4,200,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
Marner, Mitchell
$894,167
RW
UFA - 2
Komarov, Leo
$2,950,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
UFA - 5
Brown, Connor
$2,350,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Moore, Dominic
$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
UFA - 4
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
$725,000
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
Hainsey, Ron
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
Sanheim, Travis
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
McElhinney, Curtis
$850,000
G
UFA - 2
Hanifin, Noah
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Zadorov, Nikita
$2,875,000
LD
RFA - 2
Marchenko, Alexey
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
Carrick, Connor
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Lupul, Joffrey
$5,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1

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Aug 9, 2017 at 4:53
#1
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1st Trade: It is basically Duchene and Zadorov for Gardiner, a 1st and a bunch of depth players. Don't see the Avs including Zadorov. So maybe Gardiner and a 1st might get it done.
Aug 9, 2017 at 4:56
#2
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2nd Trade: Philly does NOT need centers. They have Giroux, Patrick, Flippula, and Couterier. Konecny is good. Lehtora is a cap dump. So you think a 1st and Gardiner get you Sanheim (who is really, really good), Konceny, and Zadorov (from Avs)?
Aug 9, 2017 at 5:02
#3
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4th Trade: Another lobsided trade in the Leafs favor. Why do the Hurricanes give up a very good young, controllable defender in Hanifin along with a good prospect in exchange for a winger who will be a UFA at the end of the season and a overpaid depth player. Carolina already has good wingers. Skinner, Aho, Teravainen, Lindholm, Williams, Stempniak, and others.
Aug 9, 2017 at 5:03
#4
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In total all of these trades are biased towards the Leafs and most likely won't come to fruition.
Aug 9, 2017 at 5:03
#5
Go Wings Go
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Just keep it simple, Something around Gardiner+1st round pick for Matt Duchene should suffice.
Aug 9, 2017 at 5:05
#6
Go Wings Go
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Yeah a one year rental in JVR isn't getting you Noah Hanifin, If you want Hanifin you're looking at one of Nylander/Marner that's the bottom line.
Aug 9, 2017 at 6:35
#7
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Quoting: HockeyNM1510
In total all of these trades are biased towards the Leafs and most likely won't come to fruition.


Couldn't agree with you more. Leafs don't have a single player save Nylander/marner who is good enough to be dealt to fill the leafs glaring hole at d.
Aug 9, 2017 at 7:52
#8
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Edited Aug 9, 2017 at 8:17
The initial trade doesn't even go through. Gardiner is arguably the Leafs best Dmen. Gardiner outscored Duchene last year. Gardiner is cheaper than Duchene. So why would the Leafs have to add so much to obtain Duchene?
They don't.
Aug 9, 2017 at 10:25
#9
Avs fan
Joined: Jun 2017
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Likes: 5
Would rather not trade Zadorov
Aug 10, 2017 at 12:01
#10
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Quoting: palhal
The initial trade doesn't even go through. Gardiner is arguably the Leafs best Dmen. Gardiner outscored Duchene last year. Gardiner is cheaper than Duchene. So why would the Leafs have to add so much to obtain Duchene?
They don't.


All of Colorado's players had bad season last year. Also Duchene is 26, while Gardiner is turning 28. I wouldn't say that trading Gardiner is a good idea, as you have no replacement for him in an already weak defensive corps. Also leafs don't need Duchene, as they are already stacked at center, and neither does Philly. They have Giroux, Patrick, Couturier and Filipula who can play center as well. Also giving up Konecny and Sanhiem, both whom are marvelous player is too much for Duchene.
Aug 10, 2017 at 1:16
#11
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Likes: 75
Quoting: Price_is_the_goat


All of Colorado's players had bad season last year. Also Duchene is 26, while Gardiner is turning 28. I wouldn't say that trading Gardiner is a good idea, as you have no replacement for him in an already weak defensive corps. Also leafs don't need Duchene, as they are already stacked at center, and neither does Philly. They have Giroux, Patrick, Couturier and Filipula who can play center as well. Also giving up Konecny and Sanhiem, both whom are marvelous player is too much for Duchene.


You can see the bias in this comment. Duchene turned 26 in January 2017, Gardiner turned 27 in July 2017. Gardiner is 6 months older than Duchene and you're making it seem like there is a 2 year gap.
I don't think Toronto does the first trade as Duchene has underperformed and at this point its a risk in taking him on. He would also have to outperform Kadri for the #3c spot (which he didn't last year) because #1 and #2 centre are reserved for Nylander and Matthews. (Im also not saying Colorado would do this trade, I don't think it helps either team. But many are writing off Bracco who has Top 6 potential at least)
The Philly trade just doesn't fit with Phillys likely new build around Patrick.
If JVR gets signed to a 6x6, the Carolina trade is possible if the leafs add a bit more. As it stands now, Hanifin wouldn't get moved for that cheap.
Aug 10, 2017 at 3:00
#12
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Quoting: CameronLeafs
Quoting: Price_is_the_goat


All of Colorado's players had bad season last year. Also Duchene is 26, while Gardiner is turning 28. I wouldn't say that trading Gardiner is a good idea, as you have no replacement for him in an already weak defensive corps. Also leafs don't need Duchene, as they are already stacked at center, and neither does Philly. They have Giroux, Patrick, Couturier and Filipula who can play center as well. Also giving up Konecny and Sanhiem, both whom are marvelous player is too much for Duchene.

6 months is big age diff considering the position they play. but gardiner cant fetch duchene. ur creating a massive hole in an already weak d core
You can see the bias in this comment. Duchene turned 26 in January 2017, Gardiner turned 27 in July 2017. Gardiner is 6 months older than Duchene and you're making it seem like there is a 2 year gap.
I don't think Toronto does the first trade as Duchene has underperformed and at this point its a risk in taking him on. He would also have to outperform Kadri for the #3c spot (which he didn't last year) because #1 and #2 centre are reserved for Nylander and Matthews. (Im also not saying Colorado would do this trade, I don't think it helps either team. But many are writing off Bracco who has Top 6 potential at least)
The Philly trade just doesn't fit with Phillys likely new build around Patrick.
If JVR gets signed to a 6x6, the Carolina trade is possible if the leafs add a bit more. As it stands now, Hanifin wouldn't get moved for that cheap.
Aug 10, 2017 at 3:01
#13
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
Quoting: CameronLeafs

6 months is big age diff considering the position they play. but gardiner cant fetch duchene. ur creating a massive hole in an already weak d core
You can see the bias in this comment. Duchene turned 26 in January 2017, Gardiner turned 27 in July 2017. Gardiner is 6 months older than Duchene and you're making it seem like there is a 2 year gap.
I don't think Toronto does the first trade as Duchene has underperformed and at this point its a risk in taking him on. He would also have to outperform Kadri for the #3c spot (which he didn't last year) because #1 and #2 centre are reserved for Nylander and Matthews. (Im also not saying Colorado would do this trade, I don't think it helps either team. But many are writing off Bracco who has Top 6 potential at least)
The Philly trade just doesn't fit with Phillys likely new build around Patrick.
If JVR gets signed to a 6x6, the Carolina trade is possible if the leafs add a bit more. As it stands now, Hanifin wouldn't get moved for that cheap.




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6 months is big age diff considering the position they play. but gardiner cant fetch duchene. ur creating a massive hole in an already weak d core
 
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