Max Pacioretty's value

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Created by: Bondage

Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 26, 2017

Published: Aug. 26, 2017

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Which trades are more realistic and which trades are less realistic?

Trades

MTL

Rickard Rakell

ANA

Max Pacioretty
2nd round pick

MTL

Oliver Ekman Larsson

ARI

Max Pacioretty

MTL

Haydn Fleury
1st round pick
3rd round pick

CAR

Max Pacioretty

MTL

Jonathan Toews

CHI

Max Pacioretty
Martin Reway
1st round pick

MTL

Matt Duchene

COL

Max Pacioretty
Victor Mete

MTL

Pierre Luc Dubois
1st round pick

CBJ

Max Pacioretty
Markus Eisenschmid

MTL

Julius Honka
Devin Shore
1st round pick

DAL

Max Pacioretty
Joe Morrow

MTL

Tomas Tatar
Michael Rasmussen
3rd round pick

DET

Max Pacioretty
Andreas Martinsen

MTL

Leon Draisaitl

EDM

Max Pacioretty
Andrew Shaw
1st round pick
2nd round pick

10.

MTL

Jonathan Huberdeau
Michael Matheson
Nick Bjugstad

FLA

Max Pacioretty
Nikita Scherbak
1st round pick

11.

MTL

Tyler Toffoli
Jeff Zatkoff
1st round pick

LAK

Max Pacioretty
3rd round pick

12.

MTL

Charlie Coyle
Jonas Brodin
2nd round pick

MIN

Max Pacioretty
Brandon Davidson
Nikita Scherbak
1st round pick

13.

MTL

Filip Forsberg
Samuel Girard

NSH

Max Pacioretty
Jeremiah Addison
2nd round pick

14.

MTL

Kyle Palmieri
Rights to RFA Damon Severson

NJD

Max Pacioretty
Jordie Benn
Tom Parisi
2nd round pick

15.

MTL

Joshua Ho Sang
Matthew Barzal
3rd round pick

NYI

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

16.

MTL

Anthony DeAngelo
Lias Andersson
1st round pick

NYR

Max Pacioretty
Torrey Mitchell

17.

MTL

Mike Hoffman

OTT

Max Pacioretty

18.

MTL

Sean Couturier
Travis Sanheim

PHI

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

19.

MTL

Patric Hornqvist
1st round pick

PIT

Max Pacioretty
3rd round pick

20.

MTL

Logan Couture

SJS

Max Pacioretty

21.

MTL

Colton Parayko

STL

Max Pacioretty

22.

MTL

Braydon Point
Slater Koekkoek

TBL

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

23.

MTL

William Nylander
Martin Marincin

TOR

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

24.

MTL

Olli Juolevi
Brock Boeser
1st round pick
1st round pick

VAN

Max Pacioretty
Noah Juulsen
Martin Reway

25.

MTL

Nicklas Backstrom

WSH

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

26.

MTL

Nikolaj Ehlers
Logan Stanley

WPG

Max Pacioretty
Martin Reway
Noah Juulsen
1st round pick

27.

MTL

Cody Glass
2nd round pick
3rd round pick

VGK

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

28.

MTL

Torey Krug
Jake DeBrusk

BOS

Max Pacioretty
1st round pick

29.

MTL

Sam Reinhart
Jake McCabe

BUF

Max Pacioretty
Charlie Lindgren

30.

MTL

Mikael Backlund
Michael Frolik
Curtis Lazar

CGY

Max Pacioretty
Charlie Lindgren
2nd round pick

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$75,000,000	$63,087,976	$0	$300,000	$11,912,024

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 6	Plekanec, Tomas $3,000,000$3,000,000 C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Pacioretty, Max $4,050,000$4,050,000 LW UFA - 2	Shaw, Andrew $3,900,000$3,900,000 C, RW UFA - 5	Hemsky, Ales $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $839,166$839,166 LW, RW UFA - 2	Galchenyuk, Alex $4,900,000$4,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3
	Mitchell, Torrey $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 1
	Byron, Paul $1,166,667$1,166,667 LW, RW UFA - 2
	Danault, Phillip $912,500$912,500 C UFA - 1
	Holland, Peter $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 2
	Martinsen, Andreas $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Alzner, Karl $4,625,000$4,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 5	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 9	Price, Carey $6,500,000$6,500,000 G NMC UFA - 1
Schlemko, David $2,100,000$2,100,000 LD UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Montoya, Al $1,062,500$1,062,500 G UFA - 2
Davidson, Brandon $1,425,000$1,425,000 LD UFA - 1	Streit, Mark $700,000$700,000 ($300,000$300K) RD UFA - 1
Benn, Jordie $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Morrow, Joe $650,000$650,000 RD UFA - 1

Aug. 26, 2017 at 12:27 p.m.

Ollie79

Joined: Nov. 2016

Posts: 281

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Tkachuk is untouchable. Why trade a superior player in Tkachuk who is under control for years for an older , less effective player in Pacioretty?

Aug. 26, 2017 at 12:48 p.m.

Lehoulx

Lehoulx23

Joined: May 2017

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I wish the Buffalo and Arizona trade would go through.... would be a majors improvement.

Aug. 26, 2017 at 12:52 p.m.

wojme

Joined: Jun. 2017

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Lol buffalo trade is super unfair. Young top 6 forward and young top 4 dman for an aging top 6 forward. No thanks

Aug. 26, 2017 at 12:53 p.m.

wojme

Joined: Jun. 2017

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You're way over valuing pacs

Aug. 26, 2017 at 1:04 p.m.

mz1

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 132

Likes: 6

Slight Montreal overpay in the Pittsburgh deal. If the Pens could get him for Hornqvist and a first I think they would jump on it, keep the third pick.

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Aug. 26, 2017 at 1:07 p.m.

Bondage

Thread Starter

The GOAT

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 59

Likes: 1

I understand that some of the trades are not that good but at least try to be positive and give me some advices to help me fix these trades. By the way, thank you mz1 for helping me fix this trade.

Aug. 26, 2017 at 1:48 p.m.

Dylan1995

Joined: Dec. 2016

Posts: 3,996

Likes: 930

you gotta understand patches has 2 season left. Leon is locked up 8 years at 21 I wouldn't trade him
For anyone on Montreal

Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:08 p.m.

wojme

Joined: Jun. 2017

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We. Are. Not. Trading. Reinhart. And. McCabe. For. Two. Years. Of. Aging. Pacs.

Different pieces from buffalo. The only way we give up that package to Montreal is if galchy is coming back.

Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:25 p.m.

Number91

Joined: Aug. 2017

Posts: 21

Likes: 1

Wish we could do either islanders or Wild trade. xD

Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:39 p.m.

#10

sabres89

Joined: Feb. 2017

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Quoting: wojme

We. Are. Not. Trading. Reinhart. And. McCabe. For. Two. Years. Of. Aging. Pacs.

Different pieces from buffalo. The only way we give up that package to Montreal is if galchy is coming back.

I dont want a goalie in the package for reinhart, and the sabres are not in a position to move out d. I dont think i would do it straight up tbh, age and contract matter, and we are a bubble team at best if the season goes well. Timeline doesnt really work. The value is probably fair, just not something i would do.

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Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:41 p.m.

#11

F50marco

Joined: May 2015

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Quoting: Bondage

I understand that some of the trades are not that good but at least try to be positive and give me some advices to help me fix these trades. By the way, thank you mz1 for helping me fix this trade.

Asking for realistic opinions on here is pointless. No one will ever be happy and negativity is way easier to give than unbiased opinions.

IMO - your evaluation of players on either side is way off. You have Patch being undersold on some trades and oversold on others.

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Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:46 p.m.

#12

Dylan1995

Joined: Dec. 2016

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Quoting: F50marco

Quoting: Bondage

I understand that some of the trades are not that good but at least try to be positive and give me some advices to help me fix these trades. By the way, thank you mz1 for helping me fix this trade.

Including the Leon trade haha no one wants shaw get outta here

Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:47 p.m.

#13

coga16

Joined: Jun. 2015

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Edited Aug. 26, 2017 at 2:54 p.m.

Quoting: F50marco

issue that happens a lot of this site is people mix up value and team fit when discussing trades. Like the Avs in this case. Is Patches for Duchene fair value. You can argue that. Is there a fit there with the trades, absoviely not for the avs. Wouldnt trade Duchene for a less versatile Top 6 fwd and not solve their D issues.

If he addresses team fits better and don't focus on trying to acquire young ELC, Bridge level deals with other teams, it would be more realistic. ELCs and Bridge players are worth their weight in gold bc of team control

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