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GM Game v2 - Ottawa Senators

Created by: rangersandislesfan
Team: 2017-18 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2017
Published: Sep. 15, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Player rights:

LW - Filip Ahl - Orebro HK
C - Shane Eiserman - Univ. of New Hampshire
C - Drake Batherson - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
C - Shane Bowers - Boston Univ.
C - Tyler Soy
RW - Todd Burgess - RPI
RW - Markus Nurmi - TPS
D - Mikael Wikstrand - Farjested BK (If he returns to the NHL)
D - Kelly Summers - Clarkson Univ.
D - Miles Gendron - Univ. of Connecticut
D - Christian Wolanin - Univ. of North Dakota
G - Joel Daccord - Arizona State Univ.
G - Jordan Hollett - Medicine Hat Tigers

AHL:
F Francis Perron
F Max McCormick
G Marcus Hogberg
F Colin White
G Chris Driedger
F Kalle Kossila
D Macoy Erkamps
D Patrick Sieloff
F Max Reinhart
G Danny Taylor
F Dale Weise
D Christian Jaros
D Maxime Lajoie
D Ben Harpur
D Cody Donaghey
F Tyler Randell
F Gabriel Gagne
D Andreas Englund
F Mike Blunden
F Ben Sexton
F Nicholas Paul
D Erik Burgdoerfer
F Vincent Dunn

How available players* are (not picks, just players):
Untouchable**: E Karlsson, M Stone, T Brodie, K Turris***
Hard to get: J Pageau, M Hoffman, R Panik, B Ryan, R Dzingel, L Brown, C Ceci, D Batherson, A Forsberg, A Duclair
Don't want to have to move but could: S Bowers
Open to possibly moving: Z Smith
Available: D Weise, M Condon
Being shopped: F Claesson, D Phaneuf

Would move in the right deal: Everyone else

*-Includes prospects, signed and unsigned. Also AHLers, etc. Any players.
**-By untouchable, i don't mean price is very high, i mean not being moved.
***-Cannot be traded until Jan 1 2019
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Formenton, Alex
3$925,000
Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
4$5,250,000
Brassard, Derick
1$5,000,000
Batherson, Drake
4$763,333
Bowers, Shane
4$925,000
Wolanin, Christian
2$925,000
Soy, Tyler
4$863,333
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Weise, Dale
Additional Details:
Not long after claiming Weise, Didomineco was claimed on waivers by the Islanders.
PHI
  1. DiDomenico, Chris
Additional Details:
Waiver claim.
2.
OTT
  1. Mitchell, Zack
  2. 2018 7th round pick (MIN)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Formenton, Alex
3.
CGY
  1. Borowiecki, Mark
  2. Chabot, Thomas
  3. 2018 5th round pick (OTT)
4.
OTT
    Because of real life trade
    5.
    OTT
      Because of real life trade
      6.
      CHI
        Waiver claim (from Anaheim, not Chicago)
        7.
        OTT
          Waiver Claim
          8.
          OTT
          1. Duclair, Anthony
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Detroit, not Chicago.
          CHI
          1. Chlapik, Filip
          2. 2019 3rd round pick (OTT)
          9.
          OTT
          1. 2018 5th round pick (TBL)
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Toronto, not Tampa Bay
          10.
          OTT
          1. Kossila, Kalle
          Additional Details:
          Rights to Tyler Soy
          Richard Panik
          2nd MIN 2018
          ANA
          1. Brassard, Derick
          11.
          OTT
          1. Pánik, Richard
          2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
          ARI
            Part of Brassard trade
            12.
            CGY
            1. Ceci, Cody
            2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
            13.
            OTT
            1. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
            14.
            OTT
            1. Kukan, Dean
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
            CBJ
            1. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
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            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2018
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            Logo of the TBL
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            Logo of the NYR
            Logo of the MIN
            2019
            Logo of the OTT
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            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            2020
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
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            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            23$75,000,000$68,724,209$0$1,250,000$6,275,791
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $5,187,500$5,187,500
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $1,200,000$1,200,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,100,000$3,100,000
            C
            UFA - 3
            $7,250,000$7,250,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC, NMC
            UFA - 5
            $1,800,000$1,800,000
            LW, RW, C
            UFA - 2
            $894,166$894,166
            C, LW
            RFA - 4
            $2,800,000$2,800,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 2
            $3,250,000$3,250,000
            LW, C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 4
            $1,650,000$1,650,000
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $2,500,000$2,500,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $660,000$660,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $4,650,400$4,650,400
            LD/RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $6,500,000$6,500,000
            RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $4,200,000$4,200,000
            G
            UFA - 1
            Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
            $5,250,000$5,250,000
            $3,857,143$3,857,143
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $2,400,000$2,400,000
            G
            UFA - 3
            $1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
            LD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            $800,000$800,000
            RD
            UFA - 1
            $750,000$750,000
            G
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
            $700,000$700,000
            LD/RD
            UFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
            $4,650,000$4,650,000
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3

            Non-Roster

            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $703,333$703,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            Batherson, Drake
            $763,333$763,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $670,000$670,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            C, LW
            UFA - 1
            Bowers, Shane
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
            C, RW
            UFA - 2
            $742,500$742,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            RW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $2,350,000$2,350,000 ($1,325,000$1M$1,325,000$1M)
            RW, LW
            UFA - 3
            Soy, Tyler
            $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 2
            $635,833$635,833 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            Wolanin, Christian
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
            G
            UFA - 2
            $775,833$775,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
            LD
            UFA - 2
            $735,000$735,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            $755,000$755,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $720,000$720,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            RFA - 4
            $655,000$655,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            D
            UFA - 2
            $653,333$653,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RD
            UFA - 2
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $641,667$641,667 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 2

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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 7:50 p.m.
            #1126
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            Would you trade potential for potential? Something like Brown/White for Kapanen + Martin?
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 9:46 p.m.
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            So me and my AGM have talked and we are still far more interested in Brown then White, but we are willing to listen on a White+ for Nash deal. Also what if I added Puempel to the previous offer for Brown?
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 9:53 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            boltscharge17: Brown i'd rather do as part of a package for a bigger piece, or if you have a top 6 RW, you could add for Brown, depending on who it is. White is the same, though a little cheaper. Claesson would probably cost 2 2nds. And Condon i'd rather not move so probably 2 2nds and a lower level prospect. About the value i put on Brown and White, i see Brown as a future 1st liner, and White should be a future 2nd liner.


            You're overpricing Condon and Claesson. I have Gourde who I'm not too keen on selling, but would be interested in swapping him for White+ or Brown straight up since I would be losing a current top 6 FWD and both are in the minors.
            Oct. 28, 2017 at 1:33 p.m.
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            Quoting: Icegirl
            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Max: I'd need more ... i'd rather not move Brown in a deal for Nash, but if i get i big + i likely would. Would you do something around White and Nash instead? Also, i will eventually make trades, it's just early in the season.
            DavidBooth7: I'm not making any deals YET. I'm willing to discuss potential deals for a bit later in the season, but i don't want to make any yet. If i can get a deal discussed, then later it wouldn't take as long to make a deal happen if i'm interested later.
            boltscharge17: Brown i'd rather do as part of a package for a bigger piece, or if you have a top 6 RW, you could add for Brown, depending on who it is. White is the same, though a little cheaper. Claesson would probably cost 2 2nds. And Condon i'd rather not move so probably 2 2nds and a lower level prospect. About the value i put on Brown and White, i see Brown as a future 1st liner, and White should be a future 2nd liner.


            Depending on where some of my other dmen go, I could do this. Give me some time to think, and if I ultimately decide I like that price, I'll lift my embargo and accept it.

            Alternatively, this is always an option if you want to restore our ties...

            Minnesota Wild
            Freddie Claesson
            Thomas Chabot

            Ottawa Senators
            Jonas Brodin


            i've already said i am not interested in Brodin ... i mean, maybe if by later next offseason i still haven't found a 1LD but for now, i'm not ready to do a plan B.
            Oct. 28, 2017 at 1:37 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            Would you trade potential for potential? Something like Brown/White for Kapanen + Martin?

            Possibly White, but if i'm adding Martin i'd really rather not include White and just do it for a pick. I would consider it if i'm getting a 1st but otherwise i'd rather just do it for a pick.

            Quoting: Max
            So me and my AGM have talked and we are still far more interested in Brown then White, but we are willing to listen on a White+ for Nash deal. Also what if I added Puempel to the previous offer for Brown?


            The + on Nash for Brown would have to be pretty big.
            If i do it for White you'd be adding because of age.

            Quoting: boltscharge17
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            boltscharge17: Brown i'd rather do as part of a package for a bigger piece, or if you have a top 6 RW, you could add for Brown, depending on who it is. White is the same, though a little cheaper. Claesson would probably cost 2 2nds. And Condon i'd rather not move so probably 2 2nds and a lower level prospect. About the value i put on Brown and White, i see Brown as a future 1st liner, and White should be a future 2nd liner.


            You're overpricing Condon and Claesson. I have Gourde who I'm not too keen on selling, but would be interested in swapping him for White+ or Brown straight up since I would be losing a current top 6 FWD and both are in the minors.


            is Yanni Gourde really as good as you're saying he is?
            Oct. 28, 2017 at 1:43 p.m.
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            Well for the white/nash deal you are getting a NHL player who can score for an alright prospect. Pluss you want me to add to Nash so that I can get an injured prospect?

            For Brown the offer stands, Nash(top-6), Puempel(depth F), Dougherty(top d prospect) for Brown(top f prospect)
            Oct. 28, 2017 at 1:44 p.m.
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            I'm leaving my offer where it is.
            Oct. 28, 2017 at 1:52 p.m.
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            So correct if I'm wrong... you want Kapanen + 1st for one of White/Brown? Kapanen is an excellent player... easily slots in your Top 9, maybe even Top 6 if you play Smith on the 3rd line... you value Martin at a 4th and I value Kapanen at a high 1st... so what isn't fair about an offer of those 2 for 1 of White/Brown?
            Oct. 28, 2017 at 2:22 p.m.
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            Make an offer for jbow? We'll get a deal done, then ppl should get off your case...
            Oct. 29, 2017 at 2:25 p.m.
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            Quoting: Max
            Well for the white/nash deal you are getting a NHL player who can score for an alright prospect. Pluss you want me to add to Nash so that I can get an injured prospect?

            For Brown the offer stands, Nash(top-6), Puempel(depth F), Dougherty(top d prospect) for Brown(top f prospect)


            Well i don't think you're getting Brown in a Nash deal if that's as high as you're going. In a White deal, i'd consider it straight up.

            Quoting: boltscharge17
            I'm leaving my offer where it is.


            then i'm not interested.

            Quoting: jmac490
            So correct if I'm wrong... you want Kapanen + 1st for one of White/Brown? Kapanen is an excellent player... easily slots in your Top 9, maybe even Top 6 if you play Smith on the 3rd line... you value Martin at a 4th and I value Kapanen at a high 1st... so what isn't fair about an offer of those 2 for 1 of White/Brown?


            No, Martin and a 1st for White i would consider, but i'd much rather a pick for Martin.

            Quoting: Turner33
            Make an offer for jbow? We'll get a deal done, then ppl should get off your case...


            i'll come to your page.
            Oct. 29, 2017 at 3:56 p.m.
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            Budaj and a 2019 4th for Condon
            Oct. 29, 2017 at 4:31 p.m.
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            Quoting: boltscharge17
            Budaj and a 2019 4th for Condon


            i'd need at least a 2nd.
            Oct. 29, 2017 at 4:51 p.m.
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            I want Formenton... let me know what you want on my page
            Oct. 29, 2017 at 6:06 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            I want Formenton... let me know what you want on my page


            i will
            Oct. 29, 2017 at 7:00 p.m.
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            I responded
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 1:26 a.m.
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            I find it a bit unreasonable that the ask for Formenton is 2 2nds... as he was only drafted in the 2nd round this year prior... i do agree he is worth more than a 2nd but not double the value... would you consider Martin + a 3rd or a 2nd + a 6th?
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 2:27 a.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            I find it a bit unreasonable that the ask for Formenton is 2 2nds... as he was only drafted in the 2nd round this year prior... i do agree he is worth more than a 2nd but not double the value... would you consider Martin + a 3rd or a 2nd + a 6th?


            that was a start? Maybe a 2nd and a 3rd?
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 11:35 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: jmac490
            I find it a bit unreasonable that the ask for Formenton is 2 2nds... as he was only drafted in the 2nd round this year prior... i do agree he is worth more than a 2nd but not double the value... would you consider Martin + a 3rd or a 2nd + a 6th?


            that was a start? Maybe a 2nd and a 3rd?


            I only value him slightly over a 2nd... this draft will be good. But paying an extra 3rd for a guy who was only drafted last year is rough though... highest I'd go to consider not an absolute fleece in your favour is a 2nd + a 5th... but you also wanted Martin so I'd like to slot him in the trade somewhere as well
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 11:35 a.m.
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            I only clicked submit once I swear
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 12:34 p.m.
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            Hamonic for ceci and white
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 12:54 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            Quoting: rangersandislesfan


            that was a start? Maybe a 2nd and a 3rd?


            I only value him slightly over a 2nd... this draft will be good. But paying an extra 3rd for a guy who was only drafted last year is rough though... highest I'd go to consider not an absolute fleece in your favour is a 2nd + a 5th... but you also wanted Martin so I'd like to slot him in the trade somewhere as well


            It really depends on the other offers i get, and i'll probably be moving Claesson instead anyway. A 2nd and a 3rd for Formenton and a prospect?
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 12:54 p.m.
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            I only clicked submit once I swear

            sometimes it still double-posts a comment, not sure why.
            jmac490 liked this.
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 12:55 p.m.
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            Hamonic for ceci and white

            not interested in Hamonic.
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 1:13 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: jmac490


            I only value him slightly over a 2nd... this draft will be good. But paying an extra 3rd for a guy who was only drafted last year is rough though... highest I'd go to consider not an absolute fleece in your favour is a 2nd + a 5th... but you also wanted Martin so I'd like to slot him in the trade somewhere as well


            It really depends on the other offers i get, and i'll probably be moving Claesson instead anyway. A 2nd and a 3rd for Formenton and a prospect?


            2nd and Martin for Formenton and a 5th (brings my asking down on Martin to try and bridge the gap in a deal)
            Oct. 30, 2017 at 2:54 p.m.
            #1150
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            Filppula for Brassard as a base? Clears out space so you have money to resign Turris/Stone next year and gives me a center for an extra year while Patrick/Barzal grow.
             
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