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GM Game v2 - Ottawa Senators

Created by: rangersandislesfan
Team: 2017-18 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2017
Published: Sep. 15, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Player rights:

LW - Filip Ahl - Orebro HK
C - Shane Eiserman - Univ. of New Hampshire
C - Drake Batherson - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
C - Shane Bowers - Boston Univ.
C - Tyler Soy
RW - Todd Burgess - RPI
RW - Markus Nurmi - TPS
D - Mikael Wikstrand - Farjested BK (If he returns to the NHL)
D - Kelly Summers - Clarkson Univ.
D - Miles Gendron - Univ. of Connecticut
D - Christian Wolanin - Univ. of North Dakota
G - Joel Daccord - Arizona State Univ.
G - Jordan Hollett - Medicine Hat Tigers

AHL:
F Francis Perron
F Max McCormick
G Marcus Hogberg
F Colin White
G Chris Driedger
F Kalle Kossila
D Macoy Erkamps
D Patrick Sieloff
F Max Reinhart
G Danny Taylor
F Dale Weise
D Christian Jaros
D Maxime Lajoie
D Ben Harpur
D Cody Donaghey
F Tyler Randell
F Gabriel Gagne
D Andreas Englund
F Mike Blunden
F Ben Sexton
F Nicholas Paul
D Erik Burgdoerfer
F Vincent Dunn

How available players* are (not picks, just players):
Untouchable**: E Karlsson, M Stone, T Brodie, K Turris***
Hard to get: J Pageau, M Hoffman, R Panik, B Ryan, R Dzingel, L Brown, C Ceci, D Batherson, A Forsberg, A Duclair
Don't want to have to move but could: S Bowers
Open to possibly moving: Z Smith
Available: D Weise, M Condon
Being shopped: F Claesson, D Phaneuf

Would move in the right deal: Everyone else

*-Includes prospects, signed and unsigned. Also AHLers, etc. Any players.
**-By untouchable, i don't mean price is very high, i mean not being moved.
***-Cannot be traded until Jan 1 2019
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Formenton, Alex
3$925,000
Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
4$5,250,000
Brassard, Derick
1$5,000,000
Batherson, Drake
4$763,333
Bowers, Shane
4$925,000
Wolanin, Christian
2$925,000
Soy, Tyler
4$863,333
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Weise, Dale
Additional Details:
Not long after claiming Weise, Didomineco was claimed on waivers by the Islanders.
PHI
  1. DiDomenico, Chris
Additional Details:
Waiver claim.
2.
OTT
  1. Mitchell, Zack
  2. 2018 7th round pick (MIN)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Formenton, Alex
3.
CGY
  1. Borowiecki, Mark
  2. Chabot, Thomas
  3. 2018 5th round pick (OTT)
4.
OTT
    Because of real life trade
    5.
    OTT
      Because of real life trade
      6.
      CHI
        Waiver claim (from Anaheim, not Chicago)
        7.
        OTT
          Waiver Claim
          8.
          OTT
          1. Duclair, Anthony
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Detroit, not Chicago.
          CHI
          1. Chlapik, Filip
          2. 2019 3rd round pick (OTT)
          9.
          OTT
          1. 2018 5th round pick (TBL)
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Toronto, not Tampa Bay
          10.
          OTT
          1. Kossila, Kalle
          Additional Details:
          Rights to Tyler Soy
          Richard Panik
          2nd MIN 2018
          ANA
          1. Brassard, Derick
          11.
          OTT
          1. Pánik, Richard
          2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
          ARI
            Part of Brassard trade
            12.
            CGY
            1. Ceci, Cody
            2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
            13.
            OTT
            1. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
            14.
            OTT
            1. Kukan, Dean
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
            CBJ
            1. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
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            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2018
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            Logo of the TBL
            Logo of the OTT
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            Logo of the NYR
            Logo of the MIN
            2019
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            2020
            Logo of the OTT
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            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            23$75,000,000$68,724,209$0$1,250,000$6,275,791
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $5,187,500$5,187,500
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $1,200,000$1,200,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,100,000$3,100,000
            C
            UFA - 3
            $7,250,000$7,250,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC, NMC
            UFA - 5
            $1,800,000$1,800,000
            LW, RW, C
            UFA - 2
            $894,166$894,166
            C, LW
            RFA - 4
            $2,800,000$2,800,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 2
            $3,250,000$3,250,000
            LW, C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 4
            $1,650,000$1,650,000
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $2,500,000$2,500,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $660,000$660,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $4,650,400$4,650,400
            LD/RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $6,500,000$6,500,000
            RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $4,200,000$4,200,000
            G
            UFA - 1
            Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
            $5,250,000$5,250,000
            $3,857,143$3,857,143
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $2,400,000$2,400,000
            G
            UFA - 3
            $1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
            LD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            $800,000$800,000
            RD
            UFA - 1
            $750,000$750,000
            G
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
            $700,000$700,000
            LD/RD
            UFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
            $4,650,000$4,650,000
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3

            Non-Roster

            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $703,333$703,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            Batherson, Drake
            $763,333$763,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $670,000$670,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            C, LW
            UFA - 1
            Bowers, Shane
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
            C, RW
            UFA - 2
            $742,500$742,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            RW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $2,350,000$2,350,000 ($1,325,000$1M$1,325,000$1M)
            RW, LW
            UFA - 3
            Soy, Tyler
            $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 2
            $635,833$635,833 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            Wolanin, Christian
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
            G
            UFA - 2
            $775,833$775,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
            LD
            UFA - 2
            $735,000$735,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            $755,000$755,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $720,000$720,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            RFA - 4
            $655,000$655,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            D
            UFA - 2
            $653,333$653,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RD
            UFA - 2
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $641,667$641,667 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 2

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            Oct. 26, 2017 at 8:27 p.m.
            #1101
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: AK_tune


            Just popping in to say that a 24 year old guy with 338 NHL games played is the definitive version of a defenseman entering his prime... for what it's worth. But go ahead, find someone a little more experienced RAIF unsure

            alright, that's fair. But i'm also looking for someone who has shown us that he is 100% a top pairing d-man already.

            Then you should’ve paid the price when you had the chance.
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            Oct. 26, 2017 at 9:12 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: Icegirl


            2919689-4831166425-29196.gif


            seriously, i don't know how it got to 44 pages.


            Wrong. You know why.
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            Oct. 26, 2017 at 9:32 p.m.
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            Who from NYR would you want for Logan Brown?
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 9:51 p.m.
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            Quoting: krakowitz
            Quoting: rangersandislesfan


            I'd rather not move him, but i would consider it if i got a 3rd/4th right winger and a pick.


            Is there anybody you're willing to move? Dammit RAIF, everybody else is going stuff and not you.

            Anything that interests you from Nashville? I'm determined to make a trade with you


            yes, i'm willing to move quite a few guys, i'm just not 'shopping' anyone right now. I'm not very interested in anyone from Nashville. I mean, normally Craig Smith but i believe he's been traded?

            Quoting: jmac490
            Any update on the list of players you are willing to move for Martin?


            i'm not wanting to go too high. I'd probably only go as high as a 4th or a 5th.
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 9:53 p.m.
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            Quoting: matt59
            Quoting: rangersandislesfan

            alright, that's fair. But i'm also looking for someone who has shown us that he is 100% a top pairing d-man already.

            Then you should’ve paid the price when you had the chance.


            this has nothing to do with you. it's too late, i didn't acquire Vlasic. Now you don't need to tell me i should have.

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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan


            seriously, i don't know how it got to 44 pages.


            Wrong. You know why.


            why?

            Quoting: Max
            Who from NYR would you want for Logan Brown?


            i'll come to your page.
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 10:18 p.m.
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            So you proposed Nash+ for Brown? What would you want as the plus?
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 11:10 p.m.
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            Im interested in being the AGM
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 11:26 p.m.
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            Quoting: Max
            So you proposed Nash+ for Brown? What would you want as the plus?


            probably a pick, a prospect, and either a goalie or a left winger.
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 11:27 p.m.
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            Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
            Im interested in being the AGM


            I'm looking for an AGM however at the moment i am not trading (though i'm willing to discuss trades) and i will not be using twitter for the game.
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 11:33 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: Max
            So you proposed Nash+ for Brown? What would you want as the plus?


            probably a pick, a prospect, and either a goalie or a left winger.


            Such as...
            Oct. 26, 2017 at 11:40 p.m.
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            If I wanted Colin White or Alex Formenton... what would the pick need to be added onto Martin for 1 of them?
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 1:12 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
            Im interested in being the AGM


            I'm looking for an AGM however at the moment i am not trading (though i'm willing to discuss trades) and i will not be using twitter for the game.


            But why tho?
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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 12:24 p.m.
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            Quoting: Max
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            probably a pick, a prospect, and either a goalie or a left winger.


            Such as...


            Puempel, a 2nd and a prospect but i'm not sure who all your prospects are.
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 12:25 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            If I wanted Colin White or Alex Formenton... what would the pick need to be added onto Martin for 1 of them?


            For White it would probably be a 1st ... for Formenton probably a 2nd and a 4th.
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 12:49 p.m.
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            Quoting: AK_tune


            Ok thanks. What about Brown or Brassard? Does anyone on Detroit interest you? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/500925 (not stickied yet)


            I asked about Brown and White (I like colorful names) and was shot down unless I could offer a 1LD, but now I see you're negotiating deals invovling these players with other GMs... the professional manner of your negotiation tactics is highly questionable. You can add Detroit to your list of teams that will not do business with you. Have a good day, Raif.
            Detroit Red Wings
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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 12:58 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
            Im interested in being the AGM


            I'm looking for an AGM however at the moment i am not trading (though i'm willing to discuss trades) and i will not be using twitter for the game.

            What in the name of God is the point of discussing trades yet not making any? To waste everyone's time and be the ultimate troll? If so, congratulations, you've succeeded

            The list of teams that now have embargoes with the Sens are:
            Florida Panthers Minnesota Wild Detroit Red Wings

            That's a list that will only increase with this level of incompetence and immaturity being shown by you, RAIF. Cut it out.
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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 1:42 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: Max


            Such as...


            Puempel, a 2nd and a prospect but i'm not sure who all your prospects are.


            I can do Nash & Dougherty for Brown
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 3:46 p.m.
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            Quoting: AK_tune
            Quoting: AK_tune


            Ok thanks. What about Brown or Brassard? Does anyone on Detroit interest you? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/500925 (not stickied yet)


            I asked about Brown and White (I like colorful names) and was shot down unless I could offer a 1LD, but now I see you're negotiating deals invovling these players with other GMs... the professional manner of your negotiation tactics is highly questionable. You can add Detroit to your list of teams that will not do business with you. Have a good day, Raif.
            Detroit Red Wings


            i'm just interested in Matt Martin ... probably not gonna do that deal anyway, just saying what the price would be if i feel like doing it later on.

            Quoting: Max
            Quoting: rangersandislesfan


            Puempel, a 2nd and a prospect but i'm not sure who all your prospects are.


            I can do Nash & Dougherty for Brown


            who is Doughtery?
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 3:48 p.m.
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            Quoting: AK_tune
            Quoting: AK_tune


            Ok thanks. What about Brown or Brassard? Does anyone on Detroit interest you? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/500925 (not stickied yet)


            I asked about Brown and White (I like colorful names) and was shot down unless I could offer a 1LD, but now I see you're negotiating deals invovling these players with other GMs... the professional manner of your negotiation tactics is highly questionable. You can add Detroit to your list of teams that will not do business with you. Have a good day, Raif.
            Detroit Red Wings


            if you have a lower line player and a 1st you'd give me for White, i'm willing to talk, but it's more likely it's a package deal for a bigger piece.
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 3:49 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Quoting: AK_tune


            I asked about Brown and White (I like colorful names) and was shot down unless I could offer a 1LD, but now I see you're negotiating deals invovling these players with other GMs... the professional manner of your negotiation tactics is highly questionable. You can add Detroit to your list of teams that will not do business with you. Have a good day, Raif.
            Detroit Red Wings


            i'm just interested in Matt Martin ... probably not gonna do that deal anyway, just saying what the price would be if i feel like doing it later on.

            Quoting: Max


            I can do Nash & Dougherty for Brown


            who is Doughtery?


            Jack Dougherty... Nashville's 2nd or 3rd best D prospect after Fabbro and Girard
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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 4:33 p.m.
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            Prices for the following players...

            Brown, White, Claesson, Condon
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 5:10 p.m.
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            Everybody needs to calm down over the fact RAIF hasbt made any deals. Sure its annoying and gets tedious after awhile but it doesnt impact the outcome if the game that much. Some teams only have 1 deal, why are they fine but a person who wants to wait a bit before dealing is the punching bag of the game.

            I'm not pointing anybody out, but some people seem to think that they are high and mighty and can sh*t over others and can get away with it.

            RAIF, you need to eventually make deals because people are running out of patience and I cant defend you forever.
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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 7:22 p.m.
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            Max: I'd need more ... i'd rather not move Brown in a deal for Nash, but if i get i big + i likely would. Would you do something around White and Nash instead? Also, i will eventually make trades, it's just early in the season.
            DavidBooth7: I'm not making any deals YET. I'm willing to discuss potential deals for a bit later in the season, but i don't want to make any yet. If i can get a deal discussed, then later it wouldn't take as long to make a deal happen if i'm interested later.
            boltscharge17: Brown i'd rather do as part of a package for a bigger piece, or if you have a top 6 RW, you could add for Brown, depending on who it is. White is the same, though a little cheaper. Claesson would probably cost 2 2nds. And Condon i'd rather not move so probably 2 2nds and a lower level prospect. About the value i put on Brown and White, i see Brown as a future 1st liner, and White should be a future 2nd liner.
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            Oct. 27, 2017 at 7:24 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Max: I'd need more ... i'd rather not move Brown in a deal for Nash, but if i get i big + i likely would. Would you do something around White and Nash instead? Also, i will eventually make trades, it's just early in the season.
            DavidBooth7: I'm not making any deals YET. I'm willing to discuss potential deals for a bit later in the season, but i don't want to make any yet. If i can get a deal discussed, then later it wouldn't take as long to make a deal happen if i'm interested later.
            boltscharge17: Brown i'd rather do as part of a package for a bigger piece, or if you have a top 6 RW, you could add for Brown, depending on who it is. White is the same, though a little cheaper. Claesson would probably cost 2 2nds. And Condon i'd rather not move so probably 2 2nds and a lower level prospect. About the value i put on Brown and White, i see Brown as a future 1st liner, and White should be a future 2nd liner.


            Depending on where some of my other dmen go, I could do this. Give me some time to think, and if I ultimately decide I like that price, I'll lift my embargo and accept it.

            Alternatively, this is always an option if you want to restore our ties...

            Minnesota Wild
            Freddie Claesson
            Thomas Chabot

            Ottawa Senators
            Jonas Brodin
            Oct. 27, 2017 at 7:30 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Max: I'd need more ... i'd rather not move Brown in a deal for Nash, but if i get i big + i likely would. Would you do something around White and Nash instead? Also, i will eventually make trades, it's just early in the season.
            DavidBooth7: I'm not making any deals YET. I'm willing to discuss potential deals for a bit later in the season, but i don't want to make any yet. If i can get a deal discussed, then later it wouldn't take as long to make a deal happen if i'm interested later.
            boltscharge17: Brown i'd rather do as part of a package for a bigger piece, or if you have a top 6 RW, you could add for Brown, depending on who it is. White is the same, though a little cheaper. Claesson would probably cost 2 2nds. And Condon i'd rather not move so probably 2 2nds and a lower level prospect. About the value i put on Brown and White, i see Brown as a future 1st liner, and White should be a future 2nd liner.


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