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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 19 at 3:29 p.m.

Thread: Weaponzing Cap

Oilers trade is terrible. Despite what people on this site may think, Barrie has value. We have seen season after season of teams overpaying for skilled right shot offensive-defenders. Im not saying hes worth a lot but he could 100% fetch a couple mid-round picks.

Kassian on the other hand is likely a dump since hes lost his edge since signing the new contract, but he isnt that big of a dump that a 1st and savoie would be what it takes to get rid of him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 3:18 p.m.

Thread: improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Except now they have to find someone who can play in the top 4 and a reliable backup on top of fill their other goals. This is 2 steps back for a maybe step forward</div></div>

you aren’t very bright are you Jared

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 3:11 p.m.

Thread: improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Except they are worse when they are trying to be a contender</div></div>

let me rephrase it then. this allows them to do other moves right now. gives them a backup who comes off the books after this season, frees up 2M-ish in cap space to all for them to add better players & gives them a 2nd which is a relatively valuable asset that they can use at the tdl.

sometimes moves, even when you’re trying to contend have to drastically improve your team. sometimes they are just pre-moves to allow for other things to take place

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 2:49 p.m.

Thread: improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>The leafs arw actually trying to win, they arnt going to downgrade at two positions for a round up in the draft</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>That TOR trade will never happen from TOs side. Koskinen worthless, lagessen the AHL version of Dermott.</div></div>

it frees up roughly 2M in cap space immediately with an extra 4.5M coming off at the end of the season. they also receive a second which can be used in another trade and a young/cheap depth defender incase of injuries. lastly it gets them out of Mrazeks contract which helps resign Campbell

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 2:47 p.m.

Thread: improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yycofred</b></div><div>I've asked this a lot but haven't really gotten a good answer, why would any team want to spend assets on Barrie for the next two seasons? Second assist heavy, his numbers plummet when he's not on the ice with McDavid and essentially a PP specialist at this point. His value is by far the highest it will ever be in Edmonton but it would be way lower if he were playing anywhere else.</div></div>

he is a pp specialist and his only upside is his offensive ability, you nailed it. but (despite what some may think) Barrie is and has been a very consistent and skilled offensive defender for the vast majority of his career and there are a number of teams out there who lack puck moving defenders and/or a defender to run their pp for them.

teams are not gonna pay for him to be a shutdown defender, because that’s not what he is. of they give him sheltered minutes on the third pair and run him as a pp specialist he will likely thrive. especially if it’s a place where he’s needed and put into a position to thrive

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 12:07 p.m.

Thread: moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nqutilus</b></div><div>Unlikely Keith retires, plus he has a NMC.

https://ferdaoil.ca/2021/07/15/holland-cap-errors-hurting-oilers/#:~:text=Some%20Oilers%20fans%20balking%20at%20the%20deal%20are,recapture%20rules%20in%20the%20NHL%E2%80%99s%20collective%20bargaining%20agreement.</div></div>

i simply just moved keith off the team, didn’t mean it as him getting traded. sorry for the confusion

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9 at 1:24 p.m.

Thread: all in at the deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>That’s what happens when you have a lot of ice time with two of the top offensive forwards in the world. Lots of secondary assists</div></div>

how do you explain him consistently putting up solid numbers his entire career if he’s only played in edmonton for 1.5 seasons

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9 at 1:07 p.m.

Thread: all in at the deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Right now he’s a terrible offensive defenseman. It doesn’t matter what he’s done in the past. He’s already 30 and he’s clearly declined.</div></div>

i mean he’s still on pace for 42 points

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9 at 12:49 p.m.

Thread: all in at the deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Barrie isn’t even close one of the top offensive defenders. He is terrible. The isles powerplay has been operating at 30% since the isles put Wahlstrom, barzal, and Dobson on the same unit</div></div>

throughout his career, Barrie is 0.64ppg which is pretty darn good for somebody you describe as a “terrible offensive defender”

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9 at 12:40 p.m.

Thread: all in at the deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>the power play’s been getting better as of late with dobson running it, and barrie would end up benched by trotz every night due to his terrible defensive play. barrie doesn’t fit the system, trotz would hate him</div></div>

that’s fair, i didn’t even think about system and that you can’t just place Tyson Barrie on any team for him to succeed. i was looking at just pure numbers and (granted it’s a different team & system) Barrie would be second on the isles in points, and after Dobson the second highest scoring defender has 5 points

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9 at 12:32 p.m.

Thread: all in at the deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>You ruined your pitch to Ottawa once you added Kassian.

Try again.</div></div>

to be fair the team would still be under the cap of i didn’t include Kass. i just wanted to see if i could get away with including money going back in the trade

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9 at 12:31 p.m.

Thread: all in at the deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>There is no reason for the isles to make that trade</div></div>

the Isles have the fewest goals in the entire league and have an incredibly mediocre PP. the trade gives them one of the leagues top offensive defenders (despite what the big brains on here say)

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 24, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.

Thread: deadline depth

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>Not enough for MTL to trade Toffoli and Chiarot. For Chairot at 50% Retained I would expect MTL to get a 1st or a 2nd+.

So Lavoie a 3rd and Turris doesn't get Toffoli.</div></div>

fair enough, what would you consider enough for toffoli?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:00 p.m.

Thread: dream to finish offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Dallas easily declines</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Yes, we aren’t going to be trading Oettinger at all because there’s no reason to, he’s our goaltender of the future.</div></div>

my thinking was oettinger is currently like 4th on the dallas G depth charts and should be playing right now. Dallas trades him for another potential goalie of the future who is still a few years away from being ready

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2021 at 7:59 p.m.

Thread: 3 good lines

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>King_in_the_north</b></div><div>You overpaid for a 3rd, Yanni Gourde will comes cheap, EDM has all the advantage, it will be a late pick or just a Mid Tier prospect
Also, you gave away 1st rounds like Candies, how do Oilers survive without these picks?
Also overpaid Yamamoto for bridge deal, he will get 2x2 just like Bear</div></div>

in theory yes tampa won’t get full value for their wingers, but there’ll be plenty of teams in edmonton’s position who need to upgrade their wings and it’ll start a bidding war for them.

edmonton needs to go all in now, they have a number of solid prospects developing so the team needs to upgrade now to take full advantage of their cup winning window with McDavid and Draisaitl in their primes.

better to overpay in mock teams than underpay

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.

Thread: 3 good lines

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Noah_PTB</b></div><div>I doubt some of these moves happen just cause... Well.. Holland but I really like what you did here. I feel the value is mostly accurate all around. Great job!</div></div>

0 chance any of these trades would happen, let alone all of them with holland as gm. this was mainly just for fun

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2021 at 11:33 p.m.

Thread: Expansion 3 peat

no chance edmonton does that trade. typically when teams such as tampa need to clear cap they don’t get full price for their players. even then I don’t see edmonton giving up their top prospect and and 1st for palat

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2021 at 9:19 p.m.

Thread: extreme makeover oily edition

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>I think OTT/TB/PIT need more</div></div>

you’re probably right

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.

Thread: stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Give us the 2022 1st unprotected, Ethan Bear, James Neal, Kyle Turris and we'll send Wood and our 3rd this year.

(Also...I am so confused by Oiler offers...half say Oilers have tons of cap space, half are offering us cap dumps)</div></div>

oilers have between 25-30M in cap space what is a fair bit but isn’t enough if you want to sign multiple high-ish profile players

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 10, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.

Thread: stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Take out Wood and Devils accept</div></div>

if that’s the price around the league then I feel like Oilers would just buyout neal for ~2M and keep 19oa

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.

Thread: Tkachuk boys inevitable

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mediumyeet</b></div><div>Would be awesome to see those two together wearing the note.

Also to the people with the aggressive "flames aren't touching that and what the **** is this". Try reading a description and having some fun.</div></div>

but i can’t read

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.

Thread: Tkachuk boys inevitable

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Radu47</b></div><div>OP *very* clearly established it as a fun theoretical

You're the problematic element here

Do better ✔</div></div>

but op is my dad

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.

Thread: Tkachuk boys inevitable

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>There's absolutely nothing about him going home. They are called rumours??? Doesn't mean its happening</div></div>

just because there’s no smoke doesn’t mean there isn’t any fire

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.

Thread: Tkachuk boys inevitable

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>Puljujarvi available for a pick?</div></div>

i’d rather have a tree branch shoved up my pee hole

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:41 p.m.

Thread: Tkachuk boys inevitable

what the **** is this

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