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Forum: NHLWed. at 7:51 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>I think you’re underestimating the Brind’Amour -Francis connection and how much money Seattle has</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Money talks though and if TOR is sitting there with a Babcock or 10m offer idk if Brind'Amour would reject it

Like the main reason he would leave CAR is money thats what were getting from the majority of reports.

Sure he may know Francis but he's not leaving for the sake of leaving there be factors in play and I dont see SEA outbidding TOR if they really want this guy

Plus he gets to coach Matthews big bonus ;)</div></div>

I think relationships, organizational structure and system alignment matter much more than people realize for HC
Forum: NHLMon. at 8:31 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>All pending UFA's and all cost less than what EK would have got. Plus younger

Again you keep trying to justify it but its just invalid

Trading for a 34 year old making 10m even with ret would have been an awful move for TOR end of story bye</div></div>
Man I love seeing you just ignore 90% of whay I say then continuing like you’ve made unreal points that are inarguable.

Lmfao. Look at your current team bro. That’s the end of the story because unless the gods got a miracle here the cores over and the story’s done this year.

Cant wait for Brad to keep cooking. If Montour has a good playoffs he will cost 7.5 + for a Canadian team and that further feeds my point of the gamble being just as massive as Karlsson in your eyes.
Forum: NHLMon. at 8:01 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Again your missing the point so wont bother

In the end it = waste of assets and factoring Karlsson's age and history best to stay clear

Smart move to stay clear by management</div></div>

You’re missing the point though. I’m arguing your point and you repeat yourself / move on or ignore statements.

Your assumption / choice :

Trelivings team is a good choice by management ( aka move on from Dubas who wanted to continue being aggressive )

Go after UFA gambles on RD ( yeah the UFA history of successful big signings is shiney clean )

My point :

Dubas ain’t that bad

- Karlsson having a bad year is still better than Skeji’s entire career and Montours almost entirely
- Montour is a regular 30 point guy who boomed last year and returned back in line
- You criticize Karlsson as a massive gamble yet signing Montour and Skeji are going to each be 4-6 year MINIMUM deals at a minimum AAV of 5.5; I would bet Montour and Skeji are both USA players currently (one in the sunshine state) won’t sign in Toronto for less than 6-7.5m
- Karlsson at 8-10m QB vs two UFA gambles at 6-7.5m (for TERM)
- UFA LONG TERM SIGNINGS ALWAYS GOING SWIMMINGLY
{he says sarcastically}
- additionally these signings would take place THIS year, not at the start of the Season like Karlsson. Which means you’re accepting this year is a throwaway and waiting to fix an issue this offseason.


Your point is that of bias and blind criticism of Karlsson and praise of the other two signings yet you fail to actually provide any evidence other than subjective opinion and I just state saying:

Karlsson is a bad choice for the Leafs and smart avoidance
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The same thing as signing Montour and Skeji to 6 year high AAV deals

If you can’t see how signing both those guys to long term, high AAV deals isn’t the same thing as just betting on your core + adding Karlsson: then that is missing the point.

I find my arguments quite fair.
Forum: NHLMon. at 7:36 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>In the end as I keep telling yah would just be a waste of assets. A 1st for a soon 34 year old making double digits is a no thanks

If we want more offense from the blue line just go sign someone in FA Montour and Skjei would be more than fine and cost us no assets to go get.

Thats the better solution rn</div></div>

You also refer to Montour (33 points this year?)
And he’s 30?
Skeji is what 31? (I believe like 45 points this year, a career high!!!!).

So your picking worse players, one’s having a career year, who are nearly the same age as Karlsson, both going to cost 5-7.5m.

Karlsson currently at 10m (where the Sharks took back a cap dump in Hoffman, and the Pens ALSO dumped Petry).

He could been 8-9 for the Leafs likely costing a prospect on top of the leaf’s potential late first.

Montour and Skeji are easily bigger gambles than Karlsson who had a a slow year and struggled to fit in with the Pens, and still put up nearly 60p.

I find it fascinating Leafs fans are so fine with the continued flop instead of actually taking a chance.
Forum: NHLApr. 24 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
:mapleleafs

JD Bunkis had an interesting point on the Maple Leafs today.

They’re obviously the most polarizing market in Canada (and easily have a case for the whole league) but more than that, they’re the most fascinating to cover.

Hear the point out (I’m extrapolating from what he said).

They are obviously the most covered, and have so many voices and stories that circulate and they dominate in both social and mass media coverage. But there’s nothing anyone can do because they’re just such a sight.

His example:

Boston is cut and and dry.
Peeke is week to week (LB), he’s out.
He won’t be on the ice.

We’re rotating our goalies. Done.

Toronto..
Nylander is __________ deal with it.
But he’s at practice because _________ .

Matthews isn’t at practice; _________ .

It’s not a criticism but it’s just simply how could you not cover this as a fan or journalist?

If Swayman was missing from practice today, or McDavid wasn’t taking rushes - there would be the same alarm bells.

Which continues (including more extrapolating from JD):

You have Mitch being dubbed both an elite, top winger in the league - as “The Invisible Man”.
Both are true.

And now you have a team who’s going to have to evaluate keeping “The Invisible Man” which means payday, while you have Matthews who has battled adversity and won over the fan base.

There isn’t a more NERVOUS fan base in the league. And that’s why there’s so much coverage.

It’s not an overreaction or over-saturated atmosphere; there’s just simply SO much going on around them week-to-week

yet we can’t even get a Nylander is week-to-week or day-to-day….

Games 3 and 4 arguably will dictate the rest of their run.
They’ve survived losing Game 1 decisively by rebounding in Game2: and they’ve done it without Nylander “and Marner”.
But can they take control on Home Ice.
Because if they can do it, the fan base will go bananas.

If they don’t… the fan base will go bananas… but this way includes booing in your own barn.

EDIT:

Even funnier after JD has a great like 30 minute segment about all this, and after I post this;

Keefe just makes some clear statements on both Nylander (possible for tonight) and Matthews (maintenance as expected) amid all the discourse within the last 2 hours.
Forum: NHLApr. 21 at 10:45 a.m.
Thread: Expansion Ideas and Division Reshaping
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AK50</b></div><div>If the league expanded to 36+ teams, what would the 4 new teams be and how would you reshape the divisions, if at all?

I'd add Phoenix(new ownership), Halifax, Houston and Portland. I'd change the divisions to 6 teams
Pacific: San Jose, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary
South-Central: Anaheim, LA, Phoenix, Utah, Vegas, St. Louis
North-Central: Winnipeg, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Colorado
Southeast: Tampa, Florida, Nashville, Carolina, Dallas, Houston
Metro: Pittsburgh, Washington, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Islanders, Rangers
Atlantic: Boston, Halifax, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Buffalo</div></div>

Halifax ain't it. Not big enough to support a team. Hamilton gotta be on the list tho
Forum: NHL SigningsApr. 19 at 10:10 a.m.
Thread: Anaheim Ducks signed Cutter Gauthier (3 Years / $1,900,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>I believe I was very specific when I said "he told the org he wasn't signing" as in he told the Flyers, not the public, which was a kindness he didn't owe the org to keep it quiet and keep his trade value high.</div></div>

I don’t know why he refused to sign in Philadelphia, but regardless of the reason, spending such a high draft pick on a guy only to have him refuse to sign has to hurt, even if Drysdale becomes a cornerstone of their defense. You could say Gauthier showed some respect for the team by not going public with whatever his issue was, but that doesn’t change the fact that he refused to play for them. Assuming he makes the team in Anaheim – there are no guarantees even for a 5th overall pick – I expect Flyers fans to boo him every time he steps on the ice in Philadelphia, and I would not fault them at all for that.

Fans of other teams will probably forget about it though, unless one day he says he wants out of Anaheim.
Forum: NHLApr. 19 at 12:18 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
Coyotes owner Alex Meruelo did an interview that is interesting to watch:

https://arizonasports.com/story/3546271/alex-meruelo-i-am-the-only-one-bring-hockey-back-arizona/

His position is that the Coyotes would continue at Mullett Arena for another 3-4 years while building the North Phoenix arena and did not see that as a problem until Bettman/Daly called him out in March.

basically in his perspective the NHL forced him to sell due to the arena issue not being resolved. He is convinced that the "Coyotes" are still an NHL team that is on hold and everyone should just stay on the bandwagon because its still the Coyotes. Pretty disconnected owner to what the fans are going through. My view is that he sees players/staff as commodities and that the name on the front of the jersey is what people are loyal to not the names on the back and emotional attachment to their history/legacy.

I think he needed the NHL to move the team to create the urgency from City of Phoenix to get his arena project done.

Dude needs a major crash-course in public relations and consensus building leadership skills.