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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.

Thread: Alvins regrettable offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AK50</b></div><div>Florida trade is crap for us.</div></div>

The Hronek trade was crap for the Canucks too..........yet they did it. The Canucks are pretty much committed to something as odious as this........

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 19, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.

Thread: Tdl23

I think the Canucks and Bruins are a good match for a trade. IMO Garland fits better than Boeser though (style and character). The Canucks have to retain or take back salary either way, but a 1st, 3rd and a prospect (Lauko?) probably works. I would not be surprised if Di Giuseppe and or Burroughs get included either. DG can go to the minors and would be a decent 13th fwd type, Burroughs also plays a physical style and could add depth.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.

Thread: Leafs Get Past Round 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>It's not a 2nd to move on from Kerfoot. It's probably Kerfoot for like a 5th or 6th round pick at minimum and Schenn will prob. get a 3rd or 4rth</div></div>

Maybe, in any case it's a LOONG way from Schenn AND a 4th for Kerfoot.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.

Thread: Leafs Get Past Round 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MadLin27</b></div><div>Kerf is only owed like 200k in actual dollars at this point... 750k base salary this year.
Taking on Kerf is a complete nothing burger</div></div>

It's not the dollars at this point, but the cap hit. The Canucks want to get out of LTIR, so if they take on Kerfoot it will have to be worthwhile. Either way, the Canucks aren't giving up assets for Kerfoot.....

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

Thread: Leafs Get Past Round 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joronto</b></div><div>VAN looking for 3rd+ for SCHENN due to Pagnotta.</div></div>

Yes. An expiring 3.5 M contract is not a plus for Vancouver. So a third for Schenn and then at least a second to take on Kerfoot. Canucks are not trading a 4th to take on another useless contract unless something they really want/need is coming back.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 27, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.

Thread: Enough for Bo Too little Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Edvinsson and Kasper are 100% bluechip prospects.</div></div>

"Those are not all bluechip prospects" was my statement, implying that some were.......

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.

Thread: Enough for Bo Too little Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Zero chance of Horvat returning any one of those pieces. As far as a high end young player. The best you'd do is William Wallinder who'll be a top 4 pairing LD/RD. Rentals don't bring in bluechip prospects.</div></div>

First of all those are not all "bluechip" prospects. Realistically Horvat will cost more than a few young bottom 6 pieces and a second, even as a rental. Detroit is not interested in a rental, so it's pretty much a given that Bo will resign if the trade is made. Detroit has the pieces to get this done and Horvat is a perfect fit. I believe this is the most likely destination and have since the summer.....let's see if that's true.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.

Thread: Enough for Bo Too little Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian13</b></div><div>This is horrible for DET.

They can literally have him FOR FREE in the summer....

The price will also be far too high (both in assets and AAV)</div></div>

I will wager Bo resigns where he is traded. I doubt he hits free agency.....

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.

Thread: Enough for Bo Too little Thoughts

Canucks are looking for at least one high end young player back in a Horvat deal. One of Berggren, Lucas, Edvinsson and Kasper or the 2023 1st and then some of the lesser players. Not this.....

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.

Thread: More realistic

Assuming the Canucks are accepting a third for Schenn, do you really think they are taking back 4 M in cap for a 5th? Not realistic at all..........

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

Thread: Wright the ship 2023-2024 edition

I don’t see either team (Van/Sea) doing that trade. Wright certainly has some red flags and failed to even dominate at the WJC. This does not scream an elite player. Bo is proven and should bring back more value than that….

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.

Thread: REdWings

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Boeser is gone, Horvat is gone. Garland more than likely gone and OEL buyout. Sorry but to me that's not a team that's going to be contending in 2-3 years. And everyone knows that the Canucks ownership is a royal joke.</div></div>

Most Canuck fans know this. Given the poor handling of the BB situation, I would not be shocked if some of the core wanted out too. A rebuild is almost certainly inevitable but it doesn’t appear that Rutherford will accept that fact.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

Thread: Horvat Trade St James version

Neither are particularly high end. Ras, a good D prospect and a first would be acceptable IMO. Rutherford is currently suffering delusions in his current ask. I guess we will see.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.

Thread: REdWings

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Why would a Vancouver team that's more than likely heading for a rebuild? Want 8 years of dead money on the books from OEL. Makes no sense what so ever.</div></div>

Rutherford wants to contend in 2-3 years. Unless the plan is to have Tocchet run OEL out of town, a buyout is the only other way he leaves. No one is trading for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.

Thread: Run at Pete

Not even a step towards Petey, never mind a run at him. Detroit is NOT going to add OEL and VAN is not using Petey to dump OEL.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2023 at 11:16 a.m.

Thread: Bolts interested in Horvat

Bolts don’t have the bullets to take shot at BoHo. They are out before they were in.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 4:42 p.m.

Thread: Horvat rumors

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Sorry but those aren't the only teams he's linked to, Also Colorado and Detroit and both can easily beat those offers,

Carolina has pretty much already bowed out of the Bo Horvat sweepstakes, And Allvin wants Necas as a piece.

And what part of Boston not being able to afford Bo Horvat long term don't people understand? Pastrnak wants $12,000,000 and Horvat between $8,000,000 to $9,000,000 per plus Boston has to pay the $4,500,000 performance Bonus to both Bergeron and Krejci. Without moving out some expensive pieces it's not happening.</div></div>

And yet the reports from multiple sources keep pouring in. Boston management must have a plan you are unaware of.....

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.

Thread: Acceptable basis for vancouver trade - READ DESCRIPTION

A Boeser trade probably involves Fabbro and maybe some short term cap balancing, but a Horvat trade almost certainly involves a first and a prospect at minimum. The fact that Nashville is reportedly "in" on Horvat means they are OK with that.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.

Thread: Ekholm and Labanc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>If we take a look at some examples from last year, Jeremy Lauzon got a second round pick, Kulak got a second +

Luke Schenn is likely worth more than those. Canucks also got a third round pick for 3 million dollar Hamonic who was supposedly going to be a cap dump. I can't see Schenn being worth less than that</div></div>

Canucks are probably looking primarily for 2023 draft picks in any trade and will do better elsewhere. The extra players are unnecessary and don't impact the value at all.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.

Thread: Kuzmenko

Might get you his used socks, but not much more.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 7, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.

Thread: Filling two needs

Nemec, a young roster player and two unprotected 1sts would be my ask. Otherwise why in the world would the Canucks do this??

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 30, 2022 at 10:53 a.m.

Thread: If the Habs are 12-8-0 or better by American Thanksgiving

Canucks are not taking on Savard. They are looking for early 20's D men if they are giving up picks and even that is doubtful.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 29, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.

Thread: Fulfill center by deadline

A better prospect would be needed. The second may have to come out depending on the player coming back.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: Sevo To Nucks

That's a BRUTAL return for a 2C, never mind the picks LOL. C's that win faceoffs and provide offense are as coveted as RD because they so rarely gets traded or hit free agency. Acquiring a RD heading to UFA status as the centerpiece of a Horvat trade is a mistake I highly doubt Alvin makes.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.

Thread: Realistic Fix

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>The Sens and Leafs trade make sense for Vancouver perhaps but not really for the other team.

Claesson4Norris already mentioned the contract aspect and that OTT is a team that needs help on the right side. Ottawa shouldn't be acquiring an expensive replacement for Norris, since they have internal options already.

The Leafs won't trade Kerfoot for a back up goalie/depth goaltending or an AHL D-man who isn't ready to step in if need be.

Edmonton probably declines as well, as they don't need cap space at this time and they would be selling low on JP. Not sure, where JP would play in Vancouver, if they are trading and replacing Horvat with someone else.</div></div>

Edmonton has reportedly had Pulu on the market for exactly that return and there have been no takers. I suspect Vancouver doesn't look at him as a solution either. The Toronto trade doesn't work for Vancouver either, as a potential one year rental is not what they should be looking at for even a third round pick.

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