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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2020 at 3:03 p.m.
Thread: Take 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DifferentTages</b></div><div>Hmm..

Isn’t that Ottawa Duchene price considered one of the worst overpays of the past decade?
This is also the same Matt Duchene that was traded 15 months later for a pick in the 2nd half of the first round and two C-level prospects?
And the same Sean Monahan that put up 48 points and a -16 this year?

If you are going pick best case for Sean and worst for Casey, you’ve got to expect others to do the same for your guy.</div></div>

I didn't pick "best case" or "worst case" for either player.

I picked the closest comparable there was available and there really aren't any other ones that are even close....and even you scale back the Duchene return because of your hind sight view point, the return would still be miles better than the OPs, and then you take into account Monahan's better production, younger age and better term left on his contract. It is what it is.

Sean Monahan will cost a ton to acquire or teams can just F off because the Flames don't have to trade him....same as Duchene and the Avs., and there is certainly no way Treliving would trade him for the above weak proposal.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
Thread: Take 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabresparaavida</b></div><div>My thought process is this: Montour and a 2nd= a mid first roughly. Mittelstadt likely has a value similar to Nylander of last year, they both were high picks with similar post draft success at 21, and he netted Jokiharju who has a high value. I would probably change the 2nd to pick 38 this year if it made a difference.


If Monahan truly does have that much value, I would think there still would be a way to do it without those, though I might still not like it. Calgary may take Reinhart instead and picks/prospects to make it work.</div></div>

I don't see why he wouldn't have that much value. He's younger than Duchene when Duchene was traded, he has better point production and goal production in his career than Duchene did at the time of the trade, and he's got 3 full seasons left on his contract where as Duchene had less than two seasons left on his. (Note: when it all shook out after Turris was flipped, the Duchene return was roughly equivalent to two 1st round pick, three 2nd round picks and a 3rd round pick)

And no, it can't be done without at least one of Cozens or the 8th overall coming back as PART of the return. If the Flames blow it up and trade their 25 year old #1C they will need something back that might replace him over the next few years. The best chance at that is those two assets, not Mittlestadt who is teetering on bust territory.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 6, 2020 at 1:20 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 5, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.