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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:05 p.m.
Thread: SENth Jones
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 12:10 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:42 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I think the Canes pass. Athanasiou isn't worth a 2nd, even a future 2nd. You could likely get the Philly 3rd this year, but I wouldn't do anything more for him.</div></div>

As a rental, depending on his season and trade fit, I think AA should be worth a 2nd at the deadline. It’s obviously tricky projecting this type of deal in the off-season but he’s got the tools contenders look for and if he can be had for around 1.5 million in cap (50% retained or contract coming back) then I feel pretty confident the asking price is met.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>I feel the same way about Domi.</div></div>

I definitely think Domi is going to be a harder sell than AA, hence me saving a salary retention slot for him, but at 1.5 cap hit and playing next to Kane for a significant portion of the season I think there will be some teams interested. I don’t want to repeat myself in the same post but assuming he has a decent season I don’t see why the asking price of a 2nd won’t be met.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Way too much for Dallas to give up for Kane. If the ask is any of our 3 top prospects, then they should just walk away.</div></div>
The team that acquires Kane will have to give up some type of top prospect, and for what Kane is I’m not sure why you wouldn’t especially if you guys consider yourselves a contender at the deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:11 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dls9</b></div><div>It would be unusual, but that's why Arizona is getting more of a return.

I personally think the asking price on Chychrun is ridiculous. The team trading for that a star in those massive deals always never comes out on the winning end (Karlsson, Pacioretty, Eichel) ... and I think Leafs Management is smart enough to know that. Hockey is a variable game, and Chychrun has just as good a chance of coming to Toronto and being mediocre as he does becoming a top 2 star. We've seen it happen tons of times. I think a management group as smart as Toronto's realizes this, and if they're paying the full asking price, they're going to minimize risk by asking for some retention. It's not like AZ needs the cap space ...</div></div>

I don't particularly think any of those trade references are applicable here. Patches trade worked out for vegas in the beginning, it went bad because they so completely mismanaged their cap that they had to pay to offload him, he was also on the verge of 30 when Vegas acquired him. The Sabers absolutely ran Eichel into the ground value wise by playing chicken with his surgery, and we haven't really gotten to see how that deal worked out yet (too small a sample size, give it another season to see how Eichel bounces back from the surgery and time off the ice). Karlsson was also on the door to 30, and had a massive injury history when traded, he was already a shell of the player he had been across his early to mid 20s.

Chychrun on the other had is in his mid 20s, while he does have some injury history, it seems less extensive than those listed above, and he has multiple years left on a team friendly deal, as opposed to an expiring contract or a 10mil aav. I don't think what Arizona is asking for is unreasonable given the circumstances, and they don't need to move him if teams don't want to pay, they loose onthing by keeping him around (as opposed to patches and Karlsson who would be gone/need resign, or Eichel who said he would not play for the team anymore)
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