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Armchair-GM
Jan. 19, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.
Thread:
RNH TO VEGAS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zmach</b></div><div>Why don’t you go after PLD? You have basically limitless assets to acquire him!</div></div>
I would love PLD, but according to everyone on this website he costs Glass, Tuch, and Krebs minimum.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
Thread:
RNH TO VEGAS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habsfan01</b></div><div>agreed but thats too much</div></div>
Report is Edmonton won’t go over 7 million so Vegas had to give him a reason to leave. I think 7.5 is about his value so 8 isn’t too much of an overpayment
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread:
RNH TO VEGAS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Can't see MAF having any interest in the NJD, Contract to RNH looks about right.</div></div>
New Jersey can really be anyone. Considering it’s only one year of paying Fleury and you get Glass out of it for a second seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 19, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
Thread:
RNH TO VEGAS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habsfan01</b></div><div>so 2 2C?</div></div>
Better than only 1 2C lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:02 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>I think the fleury move is a pipe dream.</div></div>
Let's say a team like Colorado, Boston, or some surprise team has their goalie go down for the season. It could be at any point in the season before the deadline. Are they confident enough in their backup to win them the cup? Maybe, but you can bet they'll at least entertain the idea of bringing a goalie in. And they can get Fleury for pretty cheap. A 4th to keep your Stanley Cup hopes alive I think is fair. I even think Vegas would be willing to accept a 5th or 6th for that trade.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:37 a.m.
Thread:
Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Depending on who VGK is prepared to lose to SEA (big $$ vs. small $$ contract) or if they are willing to buyout Fleury in his last year, I could see them extending him.</div></div>
VGK is exempt from the expansion draft so they won't lose anyone to Seattle. I'm hoping they trade Fleury at the deadline to a team desperate for a goalie. Even buying him out in his last year isn't horrible.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
Thread:
Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>As a rental or do you think they could extend him?</div></div>
I'd be very interested in Danault. I'm not sure what his price would be for an extension, but I think Vegas could afford 5-6 million AAV.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>I guess from the standpoint that Vegas doesn't mind losing a first right now I understand that idea of trading picks. However, i would also argue they probably want to save some of those picks in order to get someone at the deadline. Maybe they dont mind though. One thing that Vegas does have an advantage of though is that they dont have to worry about protections in the Seattle draft.</div></div>
If they have a plan to add someone at the deadline then fair enough. Are you going to get someone at the deadline better than Nate Schmidt though? And you're going to pay more than Vancouver did for Schmidt. That's my problem.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
Thread:
Does this make sense for VGK
It's not legal. It is legal if they send Fleury to a third team that isn't Vegas. This would make sense until Vegas traded Schmidt. Unless Vegas is looking to add someone else, it looks like Fleury is going to be on the team to start the year.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>Any trade for Fleury would require salary retention which is something that Vegas does not want to do right now.
Even as a Blues fan whose team could possibly use a backup or a 1b(1a), I'm not sure id be willing to give up much for Fleury even with 40% retained.</div></div>
There had to have been some third team that was willing to accept picks (a 1st and 2 seconds) to retain 3.5 million in salary for 2 years. Detroit and Ottawa to name a couple.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Something that I think we as fans aren't considering - given that we don't have access to the level of detail that the GMs probably do at this point - is that the NHL is going ahead with some form of a condensed schedule. I think the initial plan is to avoid delaying the 2021-22 season, which means as of January 1st, 31 NHL teams are going to be looking to play roughly 60+ games in about 100-120 days.
With that heavy of a schedule, you <em>need</em> at least two goaltenders that can perform at the NHL level, and some of the articles I've read have speculated that a third might not be a bad idea.
Right now, Vegas has seven NHL-capable defencemen (Pietrangelo, Theodore, Martinez, and McNabb is a hell of a top-four) and has Schuldt bubbling under in the system. Losing Nate hurts, but I don't think it hurts this team as much as losing Fleury would for this season. I think it could be problematic after, but Vegas is primed to be winning *now*.
They made the right trade, they just didn't get enough for what they gave away. The fact that this is one of Vegas' worst moves suggests that they aren't doing half bad at the whole professional hockey thing.</div></div>
I get that. But the goal isn't to be the best team in the regular season. You generally only play one goalie in the playoffs. I think with a $900 k backup goalie this team still easily makes the playoffs. The thought Vegas should have is "what's the least we can pay backup goalie we can get away with and still make the playoffs?" Knowing that Lehner is going to play every game come postseason time. This team shouldn't miss the playoffs regardless of who the backup goalie is.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Problem is, teams aren't going to readily take on $7M cap hit for 2 years in a flat cap world for the next two years, so a moot point saying you can spend $7M other places. When younger goalies like Markstrom, Lehner, etc. are available for cheaper why would a team take on Fleury for that much?</div></div>
I think something could have worked with a third team retaining salary. A team would pay for Fleury at 3.5 million. Say Ottawa retains 3.5 million, gets a first and second from Vegas and a 2nd or third from another team, and that third team gets Fleury. Ottawa would EASILY do that deal. The problem with that is Fleury's 10 team NTC probably had Ottawa so they can't even be a stopping point on the way.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>While true, if one guy can't play for whatever reason than having that extra starter is a good thing. Look at Pittsburgh when they had both Murray and Fleury. Murray got hurt and Fleury got Pittsburgh to the ECF in Murray's second year.
While Khudobin is no starter, he is a tremendous backup and helped get Dallas to the Finals.
When Rask bowed out, Halak stepped in and played okay.
And even though it's true those guys weren't necessarily getting paid big bucks, it shows having two really good goaltenders could make all the difference in a key playoff.</div></div>
I see what you're saying. Sure Fleury is capable of winning the Stanley Cup as the starting goalie. But I think I'd rather spend that 7 million on another player and bet that Lehner will be healthy through the playoffs. Heck 7 million could almost get you Taylor Hall.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:34 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>I'd have to imagine something could have been worked with Chicago taking MAF with 50% retained along with the 2022 1st and Glass or Tuch in return for Strome. Teams just aren't going to swallow 100% of MAF's cap hit for a late 1st round pick.</div></div>
A 1st and 2 seconds with one of the seconds being New Jersey's? I think that could have gotten it done. Especially because Chicago needs someone better in net than Subban or Delia.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>I can see why you're frustrated, that's a lot of money to keep tied up in goaltending and the trade return on Schmidt was pretty low for what he provides. As a Canucks fan I was very happy to see the deal go down!</div></div>
I'd say Schmidt is an average to below average top pair guy. But he is definitely a VERY good second pair defenseman. Vancouver got a steal for that third rounder.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>I see what you mean, but they might not have had the choice. Fleury has a NMC if I'm not mistaken.</div></div>
There had to have been one of the other 20 teams willing to take him on if Vegas sent them picks as well. It's possible, but I highly doubt none of the 20 others wouldn't have done this deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:25 p.m.
Thread:
Morons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>Vegas will be fine. Keeping Fleury didn't hurt at all. In fact, if anything you'll need both goalies for one of, if not the best NHL tandem</div></div>
You don't need a tandem for the playoffs though. The best goalie plays, which Vegas showed they think Lehner is the best goalie. Leaving 7 million on the bench isn't what you want to do.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread:
VGK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hwjw</b></div><div>I guess VGK still need to shed cap, but if they lose Martinez, their D after that top pairing isn't good enough. I wonder if they do shop anymore D.</div></div>
Vegas doesn't need to shed any more cap. They will move Glass up and down from the minors until their final number is below 81.5 million. They did something similar last year. Anytime there was an off day, they sent Hague, Roy, and Glass to the minors for the cap savings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.
Thread:
How do you get a LD on this team
Vegas will give you Alec Martinez for a third.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.
Thread:
Gotta Pay the Price for Fleury
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Yeah, Vegas isn't giving up this much, BUT they should give up one 1st IMO...if that means signing AP.</div></div>
Teams are asking for a 1st and a second for Fleury at 50% retained. It's going to cost them something significant to get rid of all 7 million.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
Thread:
Gotta Pay the Price for Fleury
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>hawks are rebuilding. The upgrade in net means nothing. The 1st's help though. I doubt Vegas would give 2 unprotected picks though</div></div>
I'd be willing to, but they probably wouldn't. You don't have to worry about the picks being unprotected if you think the team is going to be good. I see no reason why in 2023 Vegas should be worried about missing the playoffs. Now, 2023 is probably when their window closes, so they gotta hang on to the picks from 2024 and on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
Thread:
Gotta Pay the Price for Fleury
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>Hawks accept. That's how you rebuild the right way imo</div></div>
Not only does that help the rebuild, but Fleury is a significant upgrade in net for them. They can at least stay competitive.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 7, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
Thread:
Petro and Keep Fleury
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>Think they’d soon buy him out then do that</div></div>
I think they'd be willing to wait until the following offseason to buy him out then. The buyout only effects them for 2 years then instead of 4 this year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 9, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
Thread:
Lehner Contract Rumor
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>6x6 was always the rumoured ask, would be shocked for him to take less term and aav.</div></div>
I agree, I think he's worth at the minimum 6 million.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 9, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
Thread:
Lehner Contract Rumor
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Winnipeg isn't giving up a 2nd to help Vegas out.</div></div>
Wouldn't really be just helping Vegas out. Would be getting a 2nd line center back as well.
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