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Element23VM

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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsApr. 6 at 12:11 a.m.
Thread: If Hutson is refuses to sign with the Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div>I think you missed his point: a big center is more valuable to every team over a smaller defenseman, which is a generally true statement. That's the issue debating between 2 players who play different positions, unless one or both teams are dealing with s specific need</div></div>

So you are trying to tell yourself that Aho holds more value than Makar?! Howabout Barzal, is he more valuable than Quinn Hughes? Does PLD hold more value than Fox? The answer to all those questions is a resounding no. Your argument doesn't hold water my friend, Hutson and Danielson have equal value right now according to guys like Pronman who actually know how to evaluate prospects who play different positions. Sorry but I will take their evaluations as accurate over yours.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsApr. 5 at 12:57 a.m.
Thread: If Hutson is refuses to sign with the Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Detroit says hell no. 32 out of 32 teams (including Montreal) would choose Danielson over Hutson plus a 3rd and a meh prospect who isn't even worth a 3rd.

A tiny left shot D who probably won't ever be an NHL regular or a right shot Center with good size a high floor and good ceiling as an NHL player. The choice is a complete no brainer.

And no Montreal fans just because he's almost as big as Hughes doesn't mean he's going to be the next little defenseman to beat the odds and hit the jackpot either. If you really believed he was going to be that good you wouldn't be offering him in all these trades either.</div></div>

LMAO, the <strong>only</strong> Habs fans trading Hutson are the ones who, like you know very little about his play both with and without the puck. Everyone knows he is an elite skater with elite hockey IQ and excellent edgework but he is also very good defensively and isn't knocked off the puck as much as you would think for a guy that's just 170lbs. Hutson has the potential to be the next Hughes/Makar/Fox type of player but to be honest, I would be happy if he was just a Spurgeon type of guy anything beyond a .5 ppg player is gravy IMO.

BTW on the top 100 prospects rankings Danielson is ranked 14th and Hutson is ranked 15th, so basically their value is equal, so 32 out of 32 teams wouldn't choose Danielson over Hutson, it would be more like 17 choose Danielson and 15 choose Hutson.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJan. 2 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread: Avs get their 2C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jd__</b></div><div>Avs say no. Byram alone is almost an overpay for JEEK, then add their best prospect Ritchie and a first? Yeah Avs totally say no, Wild definitely say yes though</div></div>

Uh, no.

JEEK's current market value is rated at $8M, while currently only being paid $5.25M AAV for the next 6 years. It's easily one of the best value contracts in the league. Furthermore, he's a top-six center, the more valued position. Plays a Selke caliber level two-way game, and is arguably the best shutdown center in the league now, sans Bergeron.

Bowen Byram is a oft injured #3 2nd pairing defenseman with a current market value rating of $2.9M.

Their value ain't close there, chief.

Yes, Byram has top pairing upside. No, Minnesota doesn’t care. They <em>still</em> don't consider this trade. Ritchie is nice, but him, Byram, a disappointment and mistake turned cap dump in Johanson, a late 1st, and a prospect who spurned Minnesota by signing with Colorado over the Wild isn't as appealing as you think it is.

The ONLY pieces of interest in this trade are Ritchie and Byram, and Rossi's emergence as a top-six center this year largely negates the interest in Ritchie. So while Byram is good, he's not THAT good.

For reference, JEEK is easily the 2nd most important and untouchable player on their roster after Kaprizov. Over Boldy, over Spurgeon, over Brodin. Over everyone.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul. 20, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 27, 2023 at 1:51 a.m.