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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.

Thread: Saad to PIT and Matthew comes home

Why in the world would Nino agree to such a huge pay cut?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.

Thread: Lou Lou Lemon

Best team name so far
Dobson will get bridge not 6 years or that much dollars - like 4 x $4.75
Romanov will get 4 years also and about $2.5ish
Bring in Ryan Murray at 1 x 1.75 to play LD with Mayfield and send Aho down or out and Salo 7th D
Shipping out full value of Bailey contract will need at least 2024 first attached if you want any picks back

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2022 at 9:36 a.m.

Thread: Getting Tkachuk

Why would Nino take a pay cut to play for a worse team? Why would a rebuilding NJD take any part of JVR?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.

Thread: Based on the TSN Reported Cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>It didn’t cost a first to dump Andrew Ladd. Do you honestly think it would cost a third to dump Josh Bailey? We get it. You don’t like Josh Bailey. That’s no reason to shoot this team in the foot because of it.</div></div>

Don't dislike Bailey at all actually and yes it didn't cost a first to dump Ladd but it does in today's market as the "cap space" teams have asked for and gotten firsts to absorb whole salaries. I am fine keeping Bailey but these things are for fun and fantasy not seriousness. But you cant keep Bailey and get Tkachuk if you even want him. Preferably I would go all in for Lindholm. Tkachuk has all the cards here. CAL knows he is leaving at latest end of year so they have to take what they can. The unprotected '23 first is key for them in a stellar draft plus a top 6 F as they stated plus a top 9 forward and/or multiple prospects. It's not as far off as you think

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.

Thread: I know heartbreak is coming Lou edition

Tkachuk, if he is traded and does not leave as FA, is realistically only going three places; STL where is from, OTT to play with his brother on a truly rising team shockingly and NJD because the GM is his cousin.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.

Thread: AHHHH

NYI might look into a deal like that but not without Tkachuk signed. Would not be just for rights.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.

Thread: Ideal scenario at this point

But Dobson is absolutely not getting that term or $ on this deal. It will be bridge at like 4 x 4.75mm per

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.

Thread: Ideal scenario at this point

It is not awful but nut I would like to see Johnston dealt to say CHI for a 5-6th rd to create more space for deadline deals
Milano I am 50/50 on and get the LI kid thing

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.

Thread: What about something a little different

No way NYI does that deal. It's simply not enough based on Barzal age. While VAN is a logical destination along with SEA if NYI opted to move him versus worry about RFA next year the get has to be much more and absolutely include an unprotected 2023 first in that specific draft. Miller is a wonderful responsible 200 ft player but he 29 going on 30 and that is a legit issue with one year until he needs to be paid and NYI had enough 30+ guys with large cap hits.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2022 at 9:51 a.m.

Thread: Kane trade

It is not nearly enough for Kane. And you have them taking on roughly $7.5mm in salary cap space for you by keeping $2.5 and Bailey's full $5. Und3erstadn Kane never hits the Island with cap retention unless the 2023 1st and 2025 1st are in the deal plus Beau, Raaty, and one of Bolduc, Wahlstrom, Bellows. Best possible Kane deal occurs at deadline to reduce what NYI gives up

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.

Thread: Milano

Romanov number is about $1.1 mm too low
Milano is never getting 2.6 too high and shoots lefthanded
Lou will NEVER offer sheet someone else's player. Bad precedent

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

Thread: Ideal

Absolutely cannot run back another year with Martin and Johnston on the roster taking up space. Johnston must get traded for whatever they can get.

You are not getting better pick back in the BAiley deal than the one you send out to a team eating cap space for you even you you retain a portion.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 4:20 p.m.

Thread: Beauvilier for Kylington

Moving Beau out for D when you added Romanov makes ZERO sense. They have their top 4 and will add say a Ryan Murray for LHD next to Mayfield and Salo start season as 7th D. All this team is score less goals than the current version. Milano is not Beau

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.

Thread: JT Miller Trade

Why do people think of Miller as a "scorer". Broke 20 only 4 times in his 10 year career. Can we all please stop with him as the answer. He's a very good 200 ft player and responsible in all zones but he is not what they need.

Do not want Khoudobin at all. I am fine trying to get some of Varly off books but not if that's what is sitting behind Sorokin.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 4:15 p.m.

Thread: 22-23

In the current state of the market the teams with space who are taking on full contracts, like ANH or AZ, will not take those deals without a first round pick. You are not going to be able send Bailey's contract out to either one of them if you do not attach the 2024 first rd

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 7:35 a.m.

Thread: A bold scenario - trade Barzal

Kadri is getting at least $7.5 on the market
Have to attach much more to Bailey deal to get anything back. Cap Space teams are not taking whole contracts as the latest trades show without getting 1's

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 7:33 a.m.

Thread: Lou Does a Hockey Trade

2023 draft is a strong deep class. You are never trading your first four picks in that draft or actually any draft. Too much for Tarasenko

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 7:30 a.m.

Thread: fire lou

Nino will get $6 on the market off his recent play
Romanov will get at least $2.25- 2.5
Dobson will get 4 years as bridge to bigger deal they will not go all the way $7.5 right away
Bellows not defensively responsible enough to play 4th line nightly - his days here are done

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 7:28 a.m.

Thread: vlad back loaded kadri deal

Romanov is getting at $2.25 per
Nelson better at the dot than Barzy. If either is going to W it is Barzy because he likes to cerate off the wall any way.
Don't like Kadri off what is really just one great year on a talent laden team

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 7:26 a.m.

Thread: Laine

CBJ is NEVER dealing Laine. They didn't go get JG to move Laine.
Give me Ryan Murray as third pair LD over DeHaan all day. Probably get him 1 x $1.75

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 7:24 a.m.

Thread: New York Islanders

This is a worse team than present. You're not taking your top FO % guy and bumping him to a W to play a 19 year old. Second Nashville is NEVER taking Bailey $$$$. Look at all the teams that are providing space to the teams that need (AZ, ANH etc). You have to dump Bailey to one of them and attach a first and hope to maybe get a 4th or if your lucky a third back. Bellows game is not there. Send him to cpa strapped MIN who needs a young F for bottom six or the roster in general and take back a Goglioski (RD) for a year and try to move Mayfield since some teams like him.

But all these are just for fun so never take the comments personally. It's great to see fans interact and try. There should be anger amongst the comments.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: A bold scenario - trade Barzal

AZ is not taking on Bailey and his full money without getting a first or two seconds. Look at the deals all the cap space teams make. If we want to ship Bailey or others to the ANH, AZ or SEA of the world attach a first to it

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.

Thread: Sonny come home and Nino come back

You don't move Beau for a third pair guy. Romanov deal secures top 4 and third pair D guy will be a low cost vet like Ryan Murray. Nino will get term and at least $6mm per on the market

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 10:09 a.m.

Thread: clearing cap and adding younger depth

NYI would never do that deal. Kerfoot is exactly what that organization does not need. The one area they are deep at is C and he would fulfill their need as a top 6 scorer. As their GM says that is not a sensible "hockey trade" at all.

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