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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28 at 10:35 a.m.
Thread:
Last push before relocation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Simple math on this also, ownership investment from rink/condos/cut from shark club, and whatever else they have downtown, simply doesn’t overly work without the 40 dates a year jets. But let’s say they put the team on the market to be moved, league isn’t going to allow Quebec City period, only option is probably North Toronto new rink, but between Ottawa, and Toronto, that wouldn’t be allowed either. So for the sale route, min price would be a billion, move it to a location with a newish rink, probably another 1/2 billion. 1/2 billion into the club, sitting there with a 2 billion ish investment and what cities evaluation going to ensure at least a 2 plus billion evaluation? Along with the fact that all the other owners much prefer splitting 3/4 of a billion expansion fee over any relocations. Owners better not cry wolf too many times, but this one may work, as long as they make some changes along with the corporate crowd, got to toughen up that ticket, instead of such a soft ticket, never should have killed the secondary market, and some of the other markets that could prop up the demand on tickets when it is lagging. From a die hard jets fan</div></div>
You said everything that needs to be said. I’m just worried about Houston. They have a multimillionaire owner of their NBA team who is on record as meeting with the league and wanting a team. They could go to two more expansion teams between Houston and Salt Lake or they could move Arizona to one and the Jets to the other.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 22, 2023 at 6:37 a.m.
Thread:
Lindholm and Tanev
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Flames1217</b></div><div>With retention this isn't enough.
Many fanbases have been willing to pay more.</div></div>
A 3rd pairing Dman isn’t worth a 1st. I’m not sure what more you’d want for Lindholm than a top prospect, a 1st and two depth players. A 1st, a 3rd and Lysell would be the same package.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:56 a.m.
Thread:
Lindholm and Tanev
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Flames1217</b></div><div>I'll start this by saying that I really like Lysell but feel this package would be easily beat elsewhere.
If I were to split the deal value wise you have Lindholm going for the Lysell, 1st and 2nd.
After that it's Tanev for spare parts.
Flames could find more for Tane elsewhere.</div></div>
Tanev is worth a 2nd. The rest is for Lindholm.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:27 a.m.
Thread:
Blow it Up
Good deal for Boston
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:12 a.m.
Thread:
A RHD and a 2nd Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mynameisliang_</b></div><div>I actually don't hate the idea of trying to get Couturier out of Philly but if we're going down that route, we need to pay the piper for some salary retention. It's a tough pill for Philly to swallow, but there's a very good chance that contract goes really far south in the next few years, and even 1.5M of retention really softens that blow.</div></div>
My thoughts on the salary are if his back gets him again at some point he is likely going the Carey Price route to LTIR.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.
Thread:
A RHD and a 2nd Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>You’re trying to recreate the sharks in 3/5 years?</div></div>
Had they won a cup it would’ve been worth it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 19, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread:
Laine
I have no idea why anyone still believes in Laine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 29, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread:
Move Schmidt to get another centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Again I think you greatly overvalue your prospects. Lindholm will cost more than what the Islanders paid for Horvat, Heinola's trade value is probably on par with what Raty's was at the time so you are still missing Beauvillier's trade value entirely, and that's not even taking into account that the Islanders pick was 12th at the time of the trade. Vilardi is the closest thing you have to Beauvillier.</div></div>
I’d be willing to toss in a better prospect but subtracting from our roster defeats the purpose of the trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
Thread:
Move Schmidt to get another centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>"Very good" is definitely an exaggeration, Winnipeg is pretty middle of the pack. Heinola would almost certainly be below Poirier and the Flames LD prospect pool. Still doesn't change the fact that Torgersson is essentially worthless</div></div>
On our left side we have Morrissey, Dillon, and Samberg. That means it’s tough to get into the lineup. Heinola had a very good season as an offensive defenceman in the AHL. He needs a chance to play. If you would want a different prospect added in place of Torgersson I understand that but this isn’t that far off a fair offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
Thread:
Move Schmidt to get another centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Overvaluing your prospects much? Torgersson is hardly anywhere close to NHL ready. I'm hesitant to say he will ever be. Heinola still has decent potential but he can't even crack the Jets d-core. Again failing to see the "NHL ready" part</div></div>
We have a very good d core, which is why he isn’t cracking it. He has already proven he’s NHL ready but we don’t have a spot for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
Thread:
Move Schmidt to get another centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Bryson's cap hit is pretty much what you're retaining on Schmidt, there's a basis for a trade here but this isn't it.
Idk about the Lindholm trade either.</div></div>
You’re forgetting about the extra year of Schmidt we’d be getting out of. And what’s not to like about Schiefele, Lindholm, Lowry, and Namestnikov down the middle once Vilardi is back?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.
Thread:
Move Schmidt to get another centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Weak offer for Lindholm</div></div>
A 1st and two NHL ready players on entry level deals is weak?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread:
The trade is 1 for 1
No way
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 16, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
How the Chicago Lineup Could Look With A Couple Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>This is awful. Stick to the Jets, your favorite team. Stay away from the Hawks.</div></div>
Awful? No important future pieces traded and the team is considerably better right away.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 16, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
How the Chicago Lineup Could Look With A Couple Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HShockey</b></div><div>Why would Chicago want Matheson?</div></div>
Good offensive LHD to pair with Jones.
Forum:
NHL
Aug. 16, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread:
2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #4 - The quiet period
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Damn the last two days have been rough on the leafs
Bobby Baun, the guy who scored the cup clinching goal for the leafs in 64 just passed too</div></div>
I was 7 years old when he scored that goal. Let’s just say I am no where near 7 now!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 16, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>Or when the window opens up they would prefer to be in the hunt longer, with a real chance of winning. As a fan base there was the "Dead Wings" era, followed by greatness. What is another down time if the payoff is similar to, or even a fraction of last time? You're so eager to talk up Helle and KFC (rightfully so) when completely ignoring the ramifications for the Wings.</div></div>
I’m an old guy who remembers that Dead Wings era and it sure looks like you’re in another one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyManiac95</b></div><div>That one trade looks awful for Detroit, while the other looks awful for Winnipeg</div></div>
Prospects are nice when you are starting a rebuild. We aren’t rebuilding and Detroit has been rebuilding for 7 years! At some point you’d think they’d want to contend but I guess picks and prospects matter more in year 7 of a rebuild than a top winger who’s scored 47 goals and a Vezina trophy winner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread:
Dubas reunion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Bro got clowned for making a horrible trade and now is beefing with Yzerman.</div></div>
Your team has been so embarrassing for the past 7 years that it makes me proud to be a Jets fan! That should embarrass you!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Preposterous trade for detroit to make</div></div>
Draft picks mean more than established top players, got it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
Thread:
Dubas reunion
Kyle the wiz kid and Steve Yzerproblem hooking up for a trade would look more like Rust and a 2nd rounder for one of Stevie’s Swedish kids and a pick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Yes, I also like Lucius' potential, have you looked at Schenn's contract and age?</div></div>
His contract is fine and his age isn’t a problem if you want to win now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>I like Schenn but even if he'd waive gawd no to that trade.</div></div>
You like Nino that much?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>You must be kidding? You asked four essentially 4 1st round picks and for what a 30 year old goalie whonis a pending UFA and Connor, who is a very good player, and all for one proven player whonis what 20 or 21 a top 10 ten pick this year and two future 1st round picks. There is nothing Helly would sign here as the Wings are not a true cup contender and he could walk after this year.
Also for your dmart remark, Yzerman got Petry on the cheap and for virtually nothing. I am not overall happy, but Steve is slowly trying to shape this team for a long run in the playoffs and possible cups runs. Guys like you see the fast track and wonder why your team sucks for 3 to 5 years and then is good for two.</div></div>
A great goalie and a guy who’s scored 47 goals for a bunch of maybes, an average goalie and a bad defenceman is me doing you a favour.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Wouldn't it be easier to just say you don't like Steve Yzerman?</div></div>
I don’t like when people value nothing over something. Kyle Connor scored 47 goals in this league. Hellebuyck is one of the only elite goalies. This trade would put Detroit back into the playoffs but since they are the fan base that never seems to want to stop rebuilding they seem to hate a trade that is a win for them.
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