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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 1, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
Thread: possible MTL moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Backup goalies dont get 2nds</div></div>

In the last 3 seasons Adin Hill, Vitek Vanacek (maybe Caps saw him as a starter over Samsonov?), Robin Lehner, and ,depending on what your opinion on Matt Murray was at the time of the trade, him as well. Now they are younger, but they all either made more or were due raises which will have them making more than Allen half retained. Add on to the fact that it has happened recently, MTL has major uncertainty in net due to Prices health and Allen is the only guy in the system who will likely be able to handle the work load if Price can't play. Mrazek isn't a guy I'd want taking the workload, even in a rebuilding year, but having him take some of it and hoping someone steps up is an acceptable option, for the right return.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread: Curious About this Trade Down Caps Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Well, the problem is that I'm not sure everyone would agree with you that he's worth a late first. For example, I don't think that Arizona or Buffalo would be willing to pay their late firsts for him. I could be wrong.</div></div>

So because a non-playoff team wouldn't pay a certain price for a player, their value in a trade with a playoff team should be less? Weird argument but fair enough. Dvorak's value based on middle 6C being traded in the past would be late 1st early 2nd, or a similar value of roster players/prospects. Just last draft we saw pick 20 traded for 22 and 90, the extra 4 spots don't equal moving from pick 90 to around pick 30-40's value. We also saw that moving up 7 spots to 15 cost 23 48 and 138, which is also less than Dvorak plus 26 and it moved them more spots and to a more valuable pick. Maybe Dvorak and MTL 2nd (33) for WSH 1st (20) WSH 3rd (85), I don't know though, MTL would need to be pretty high on someone at 20 and be positive they wouldn't slip to 26.
Forum: NHLJun. 12, 2022 at 3:48 a.m.
Thread: 2021-22 NHL Off-season Discussion Thread - #2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Vancouver was the team that got slapped with Luongos recapture penalty</div></div>

Pretty sure both teams did, Vancouver is just the one everyone remembers because the had a significant cap hit from the recapture, while Florida had something around league minimum. And, for context, Florida was the team being referenced because, like EDM and MTL, they were the 2nd team a recapture penalty (or, in the case of what started the talk, a recapture credit) eligible contract was playing for and therefore were a reference point to the discussion.
Edit: A quick google search tells me that VAN had just over 3M cap hit while Florida had just over 1M, both for 3 season because that was how many years remained on Luongo's deal at the time he retired.
Forum: NHLJun. 12, 2022 at 2:29 a.m.
Thread: 2021-22 NHL Off-season Discussion Thread - #2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Duncan Keith retired this summer, his $5.5M cap hit would be removed for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LetsgoOilers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#LetsgoOilers</a> and they would get a $3.4M recapture cap credit (negative cap hit). <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blackhawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#Blackhawks</a>  would have $7.5M of recapture cap hit, allocated as $5.5M in 22-23 &amp; $2M in 23-24<a href="https://t.co/HcKqBlTsn1" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://t.co/HcKqBlTsn1</a> <a href="https://t.co/tR3cEBczVh" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://t.co/tR3cEBczVh</a></p>— PuckPedia (@PuckPedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuckPedia/status/1535862004564447232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">June 12, 2022</a></blockquote>



Hold up. Cap recapture credit? Keith retiring relieves them the whole $5,5M of his cap hit is PLUS $3,4M too?

Yeah there's definitely gonna be an influx of KEITH RETIRES posts coming forth pretty soon.</div></div>

If this goes for all the contracts subject to the cap recapture penalty MTL should be talking to Weber and seeing if he would retire prior to the final year of his deal when he's only owed 1M, because if they keep him they'll have accumulated almost 18M in cap recapture credit at that time. It would likely be like the penalty and not exceed cap hit in any season, but nearly 8M of the books plus an almost 8M credit would be nice in what would be the final year of Price's deal, Wright (or however they take 1OA this draft) hopefully needing a raise, and it there would be a 2nd year at almost 8M credit and a 3rd at about 4.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 30, 2022 at 4:56 a.m.
Thread: Try the AZ approach
Easy no from MTL, an unprotected 1st (even from a team that shouldn't be in the lottery) for a rental LD and an RFA who is yet another LD ( MTL has a quite a few of those in the system) is already a bad idea given MTL's unlikely to make playoffs, then adding a decent 3C, 3 middle 6 wingers of varying quality, an alright 2nd pair-really good 3RD option, and depending on Price's health, possibly the goalie who will be getting the majority of the starts next season. Horrible use of assets by MTL, even if Dunn extends 8 years at a reasonable cap hit he's likely more a 2nd pairing guy and MTL has more than enough guys with that potential.
Maybe pick a couple of teams that's likely to make the playoffs and need 2nd pair LD and send Soucy and Dunn to them, even better if the team you send Dunn to is lacking in LD signed to term and a lack of decent prospects at the position.