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Forum: Armchair-GMJan 5 at 4:47
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>If JT Miller is your comparable, you’re just going about this the wrong way. You’re also not looking at what columbus needs. You’re also not taking into account that the lightning really needed to shed salary. They had a desire to trade miller. Columbus doesn’t want to trade PLD. Blow them out of the water or they aren’t going to have any interest.

Then theres the last bit. Strome and Deangelo. Theres a reason they’re in here. There’s a reason why they’re in all the New York trades. They aren’t that good. No one really wants them, although Deangelo is probably a pretty good pick for daily fantasy.</div></div>


Few things here:

-Columbus wants to trade PLD the same amount Tampa probably "wanted" to traded JT. Nobody wants to trade a young, dynamic 2 way 50 point forward making 5 mill per year for a few years to go. Nor does a team want to trade a young, number 1 center. It was solely cap. Needing to shed cap is the same amount of reason to move someone as a player requesting a trade.

-I admit JT isn't the best comparable player wise, but I mean in terms of return value ratio in a recent trade. Mark Stone (contingent on extension)? Elite prospect and a 2nd. The Hall trade was for less than what NYR would be giving here. If Columbus wants Kravtsov and a second instead of this offer, be my guest. Im sure you'd scoff at that too, but these are just the way these deals usually unfold. The armchair GM's typically expect a lot more than what actually happens. If PLD really wants out, these are things to consider.

- Aren't a lot of players getting traded by fans on this website recurring? Is your logic that good players don't get traded? I admitted Strome isn't half of what PLD is, but Tony brings offense and CBJ needs that, especially if PLD is leaving. 4th in points by d-Men is bad now I guess? Come on man, they get traded because they aren't essential to our core and still carry value across the league. Thats how damn near every NHL trade happens: non-core players with value get moved in an attempt for both teams to improve roster strength and depth. I know you know that. Are you being ignorant or just trying to get under a Rags fan's skin?

-Is the only way CBJ can win a Dubois trade if they get Laine for him, one for one? Helps both teams' needs if they both play to their maximum potential (and if WPG is big enough a stage for PLD)
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 5 at 2:00
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Alright few things here. The whole point of this is that no, it won’t take the whole farm system. Quality over quantity bud.

Who cares if he wants out? That doesn’t effect columbus at all. Not for a few years anyway.

Players of that status who have been traded? There aren’t going to be many. Seguin? The centerpiece of that trade was a 30 goal, 70 point winger who was elite defensively on an awesome contract. Columbus isn’t going to care about strome or tony D at all.</div></div>


Perhaps you don't know enough about the prospects involved? Gauthier projects to be a strong middle 6 winger and Robertson a top 4 D. Plus a first rounder likely in the 10-20 range and a second. Then you add in one of the best offensive Dmen in the league and a second line center who can play behind Domi for the year. Strome obviously is not close to Dubois but at least a decent replacement for 1 year until a better situation can be figured out.

I look at JT miller. Similar point totals, although JT never hit 61. First rounder, a 7th, and a minor league goalie for a great two way winger on a good contract (who went on to put up 72 points). Obviously different players, and Tampa had their reasons for that trade, but my point is the deal Im suggesting is not as insulting as you seem to think it is. You think it is insulting, but in real life NHL, this is a deal they'd have to consider with PLD wanting a move to a bigger stage.

Additionally, in the NHL prospect world, when the quantity IS quality, Quantity is important. More prospects you have likely to turn NHL, the better.
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