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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 16, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
Thread:
2021-2022 Trade deadline
Jaskin is out for the year with a knee injury, Dadanov has no trade protection that he wouldn't waive for the Yotes etc etc etc
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:57 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You are probably right but I did try to base it off of the Jones trade</div></div>
Jones is older, and wanted an extension that came in at double what Chychrun makes...
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun
Add in Zary and 2023 unprotected 1st and then lets talk.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
Thread:
Modelling a Jakob Chychrun trade off of the one for OEL
This is a joke post right?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.
Thread:
Needing Change
!!
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.
Thread:
Needing Change
This trade is an embarrassment from the Arizona side. Any Chychrun deal with ANY team starts with an unprotected 2023 1st and A level prospect and from there you add. This isn't Eichel with a neck surgery and 10M ticket, this is a 23 year old fringe Norris defenseman, who makes 4.6 M. (which btw is HALF of what Nurse is about to make, while being a better player than Nurse). Really think about what you've proposed.. first, getting to the floor isn't an issue for the Yotes, there are so many cap dump players.. (Lucic, Dadonov, Alec Martinez, Mrazek, Josh Bailey just to name a few) that are going to be out there just like Ghost and Stralman this most recent offseason that the Coyotes can take on and get assets... and meet the floor. That's a silly thing to say. So what use is Kassian to rebuilding team? If he's in there for salary matching fine.. but don't act like he has ANY value. Same story with Barrie, useful player, makes no sense on a rebuilding team.
Also... why is Kessel in this deal? He's a piece the Coyotes can move in a different trade for more assets, its a waste to put him in this.
Second, I know you all think Holloway and Savoie etc are "untouchable" but no one besides 97 and 29 are untouchable.. you're getting a 23 year old Norris level D man who is cost controlled. Any deal is 2023 unprotected 1st, Holloway +
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 12:50 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun blockbuster
I'm gonna be a dissenting opinion here buy why does AZ do this? Why is Arizona including Kessel into this trade when they could sell him separately for more assets? Why is Az including ANY picks at all? Why is AZ taking on Kassian? I think Holloway is a very nice prospect but the EDM fans on here acting like he's untouchable.. c'mon you'd be getting a norris caliber defenseman at 4.6 million... are you unaware of how much you just signed Nurse for?? Chychrun is better than Nurse at half the cost you're gonna have the pay up for him. Also Broberg is again a nice prospect but he's no sure thing.
I don't think this deal works for either party as constructed but I also don't understand EDM fans who think they could get Chychrun for a late 1st rounder, Yamamoto (who can't score despite playing with 2 nuclear weapons) and a B level prospect
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
Thread:
Aggressive Offseason
I don't see the appeal of this trade for the Coyotes.. the best piece of this deal for the Coyotes is 2022 1st round pick which is going to be LATE in the 1st round. Both Studnika and Vaakanainen are 22 years old, aging out of being prospects and have show NOTHING at the NHL level yet. DeBrusk is a fringe player who needs a fresh start but he's older than Chychrun and doesn't present much value to a rebuilding team. I don't think the Coyotes would/should be excited or interested in any of the assets presented in this trade
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 15, 2021 at 10:12 a.m.
Thread:
Gettin in on the fun
Not even close.. Az hangs up and deletes your number
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 1, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
Thread:
Money
Dadanov has no trade protection do you think he'd waive to come to AZ?
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Arizona Coyotes
Dec. 1, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread:
A Coyotes deadline primer for all you people who dont actually follow the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MatthewsFan</b></div><div>Johan Larsson = 4th round pick
Travis Boyd = 6th round pick
Lawson Crouse = 2nd round pick + b/c prospect
Phil Kessel = 2nd round pick</div></div>
I'd argue - Larsson 2nd (think Janmark last year)
Boyd - 4th
Crouse - I agree 2nd and strong prospect (think Bennet last year)
Kessel - 2nd but if salary retention could be a 2 + b/c prospect
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Arizona Coyotes
Dec. 1, 2021 at 12:08 p.m.
Thread:
A Coyotes deadline primer for all you people who dont actually follow the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>majormoose007</b></div><div>what about lyubushkin, 3rd pairing rental defenseman</div></div>
He's a righty and he's physical, those dudes always have value. He's got a little bit of cowboy in him in that he can break structure and try and do too much sometimes, and for being bigger he's sometimes a mess net front defensively. I'd think of him like Jani Hakanpää at last year's deadline who fetched a decent NHL ready prospect/tweener or a 3rd rounder.
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Arizona Coyotes
Dec. 1, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
Thread:
A Coyotes deadline primer for all you people who dont actually follow the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Drshnuckels91</b></div><div>What about schmaltz (when he comes back healthy) and dzingel?</div></div>
Dzingel I'm sure they would move. Not sure how much value he has.. but he's been a good soldier and seems to like it here.
Schmatlz is tough, he's part of what we call the "middle core" with Keller, Crouse, Chychrun basically the holdovers from the last rebuild. BUT - this GM and ownership group didn't sign him to this current contract so I don't think they are beholden to him. That being said, he flashes some elite stuff when he plays, and if healthy he'd be our 1C so I think it would take a decent offer to move him, almost identical to Dvorak.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 30, 2021 at 11:07 a.m.
Thread:
Kessel
I don't think Phil would waive his no trade protection to go to EDM.. not that it isn't a great situation hockey wise... it is and he'd be a good fit.. but idk his appetite for Canada.
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Arizona Coyotes
Nov. 30, 2021 at 10:23 a.m.
Thread:
A Coyotes deadline primer for all you people who dont actually follow the team
First - the Coyotes are not trading any of Chychrun (future captain having a down year, still the team's core franchise player), Keller (hard contract to move, also finally starting to play up to his potential), Hayton (getting his feet under him, playing good 200 foot hockey, the points will come), Ghost - he's been great, he seems to love AZ, this team still needs some real players, and he's been a source of offense and effort, I think it would take a monster offer for a team to get Ghost, finally Vejmelka - a scouting diamond for the team who found him in the Czech league, great competitor, still learning north american hockey but could be the goalie of the future. Also any 1st round pick, or any significant prospects aren't going anywhere.
Yotes best deadlines assets are as follows:
Johan Larsson: Before he landed in the COVID-19 protocols, Larsson was logging the highest average ice time among of any forward on the team (Keller and Crosue have since surpassed him). Part of that was out of necessity due to the team’s lack of center depth, but Larsson was holding his own in tough defensive matchups and centering Kessel and Crouse. He's a beast in matchup play with some offense and due to his expiring contract and affordable price is a perfect deadline piece.
Travis Boyd: Travis Boyd is shooting 31.3 percent. That’s not going to last. Most players shoot around 10 percent so he is due for a major regression. Even so, for a player who was considered “just a guy” by media in Toronto, Boyd is making the most of his opportunity to jump up in the lineup with three Coyotes centers (Larsson, Jay Beagle and Nick Schmaltz) out of the lineup. He has already tied his career-high for goals and he is on pace to shatter all of his career numbers... I also know its a flawed state but's he's plus 1 on the season on a team with an almost -40 goal differential. He's currently our 1C. He's been great, I wouldn't be surprised if the Yotes extend him but maybe that production and his all-around play mean's he's a great deadline asset for cap strapped team like Tampa or Vegas.
Lawson Crouse: Crouse has five goals and 10 points, which still puts him on pace for career highs, but he is doing so much more away from the puck at 5 on 5, on the power play and on the penalty kill. He is also driving offense with the highest expected goals rate on the team (3.56). Crouse, 24, will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season. He looks like a valuable piece for the Coyotes’ future but he'd also be a VERY valuable add for a contender, his price is high.
Phil Kessel: Phil wants out, the Coyotes want to grant him that wish and to Kessel’s credit, he hasn’t pouted about his situation. He has been playing hard. He has three goals and 11 points in 21 - on a better team where he could eat bottom 6 competition and play PP specialist he'd still be an impact guy.
Hopefully you all can use this information when making your teams and you'll stop trading Chychrun to Montreal for a 2nd and two middle prospects.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.
Thread:
Father Holland Sells The Farm
Not enough for Larsson, especially if the yotes are going to retain (they already have retention on 2 other contracts OEL, and Kuemper so that would mean they can't retain on a Kessel deal). Larsson is quite good and he's very cheap even without retention. Benson is 23 so not a prospect anymore, hasn't shown anything at the NHL level yet and the 3rd rounder might as well be a 4th considering how good the Oilers are. If you want Larsson you'd have to pay a real price.. like Vegas paying a 2nd and 3rd for Janmark last year
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:53 p.m.
Thread:
Big Bodies and Rask at TDL
Yotes say no to that pretty fast. Vaakanainen hasn't really shown anything to this point, he's 22 so aging out of prospect status... currently not lighting up the AHL. Bush has proven he's a real NHL player.. last 4 games been first pair with Chychrun, he's got real value. Moore doesn't move the needle at all he's a negative asset and the pick swap makes no sense for the Coyotes since a 2022 4th isn't a real asset.
Bush is good deadline rental.. you'd have to pay an actual price for him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
Thread:
Trade deadline Buyers
Coyotes accept - I think they'd even be willing to retain on Kessel for that package
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 22, 2021 at 2:42 p.m.
Thread:
We Are Currently on Pace to Give Up 451 Goals Which Would Be A Record
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Phleb2</b></div><div>Agree. In your position, you should trade Kessel for picks and/or prospects. The value will depend solely on Kessel's production this year. If he produce and if you retain, he could give you a decent return.
He did win a Cup and was close to the Connie Smythe at that time.</div></div>
My only counter to this is that there is losing and there is all caps embarrassing LOSING which is what we're experiencing right now. Which I think breeds a longer lasting stink that some might want to admit.. like last night against Edmonton for the first 25 minutes of the game Yotes outplayed them significantly Koskinen was playing well and then Vejmelka gives up two softies and mentally the team was just shot. I think at least having a goalie who can keep you in a few games and maybe steal one or two would be good to help players like Chychrun and Keller keep progressing. Hayton (once he's got his feet back under him in Tucson after his pre-season injury) will be up, Soderstrom etc. It'll help on those guys could at least taste a few wins and feel competitive.
I think with Khudobin this is still the worst team in the league so you're not gonna lose out on Wright but at least you're not getting your head absolutely kicked in every night.
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San Jose Sharks
Oct. 17, 2021 at 12:33 a.m.
Thread:
How good is Lane Pederson
As one of the few Coyotes fans on here, and one of the few who has seen Lane play not just for the Yotes but for the Roadrunners I can tell you he's a solid 4th line center. He's not overly dynamic, plays a simple game, doesn't have a ton of "pop," but he's got okay hands in tight (could explain why you're seeing him PP units, he's a decent net front guy). Very sound defensively and he's a battler, but I wouldn't get too excited he's a fringe NHLer.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 15, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread:
Using offer sheets to mess with the Oilers and VGK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>Sorry you are not getting MTL's first round pick which is most likely top 10.</div></div>
It's weird cause we actually got more than what I proposed. Gonna miss Dvo but will enjoy having a pick that is hopefully in the lottery
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 15, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread:
Would Phil say yes to Dallas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Phleb2</b></div><div>Dallas says no.
Damiani is a pretty good prospect who brings playmaking to a team desperatly needing playmakers.
Switch Damiani for Tufte and 3rd and it's a deal. Tufte skates pretty well for a big guy.</div></div>
That works just as well for me
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 9, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.
Thread:
Final Moves before Season
Coyotes aren't giving up any kind of asset for Smith - also Oilers resigned Smith, doubt they move him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:50 p.m.
Thread:
Continue the rebuild be an awful team that wins 20 games to get Shane Wright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Meeqs</b></div><div>You aren't getting Timmins for a heavily injured goalie rental.
Wsh doesn't need Kessel, god they wouldn't even want him.
Cap hit deal is fine
Garland deal is finish but a tad heavy
I feel like Arz should do better on the last one but tough to tell.</div></div>
Garland deal is finish but a tad heavy
I feel like Arz should do better on the last one but tough to tell.[/quote]
Just circling back to say 1. We did get Timmins and instead of a 2nd we got a 1st. Hmmm wow.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 26, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
One Last Run- Veteran team
The Coyotes aren't giving up any picks in a Kuemper deal.
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