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Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
3 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Marner has been the reason why 2 of the last 3 goals by TO were scored. He's not the hero people want him to be. I actually don't think he ever will be and the sooner he gets that through his head the sooner he'll mature into the player he can be.
Look, I am critical of Marner as well. He's without question the most fragile player on the team. And I don't think he should be a leader on the team. I think he is best suited to be a star but a step below the real leaders on the team. Next year it would be cool to see JT step down as captain and had it Rielly or Matthews. Reilly Captain with Matthews and Nylander Assistants. I think Willy with a letter would push him to be even better than he has been this season. I think it would also let Marner shed some spotlight, which would be better for him as well.
As for right now? I have zero confidence this team will come back. Part of me wants it to end soon so we can fire Keefe and see what happens next. But there are risks with that because Treliving and coaches are not a good combination. So there is a good chance Treliving makes everything worse by making all the wrong moves. He really didn't do a good job in Calgary.
So with all that said, I hope the core does something special. And still Keefe gets fired.</div></div>
Marner was also the reason why the Bruins scored 2/3 goals last game too... So it's great you get a goal, but if you cost your team 2... You are a net negative
As for leaders, it should be JT until JT doesn't want to... Which doesn't make sense as he's always wanted to be the captain of TO... I'd offer him a 3.5 mill contract and tell him that if he wants to stay, 3.5 is the max as they can't afford him otherwise... He'd want to stay so it might be 3-4 mill contract which works and he'd still be happy as the captain and a hero for taking a discount... The As should be Rielly, Willy and Marner because the spotlight is on Matthews, so putting less eyes on him is the best as he's their best player
This team won't comeback, as best case, they'll lose in Game 7 again... Treliving and Keefe each were trying to have this team win with an arm tied behind their back, so likely Shanny gets the boot and a new president would be hired, which is good bc Brad has good and bad ideas, it's just a matter of sorting through them
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NHL
3 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Last year? Disagree.
Year before. Yes that's what I said.</div></div>
Last year... The only games that the goalie stole the show were Game 3 and Game 5...
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Toronto Maple Leafs
3 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McGruff</b></div><div>OK, so what's the '<strong>deal</strong>' that makes me trade my:
* RD, #3-man, PK#1, 27yr old, Shutdowner US$4.1M until end of 2027...
Hint - TML have nothing comparable ^ ^ for a "WIN-WIN" hockey trade...</div></div>
Carlo+late 1st for Marner+4rth...
Leafs trade for a position of need and the Bruins get a setup guy for Marchand that allows them to move Geekie to 3C
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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McGruff</b></div><div>Argument looked FA signing...
Doubt there's a TML-BOS trade involving BC...</div></div>
We said the same about Van-CGY, No?
And it happened x2!
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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Their answer is not going to be Woll as starter next year lol</div></div>
I'm big on Woll... And think he has what it takes if he were to have a Stolarz/Desmith of a backup
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NHL
14 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Thing is, there have been multiple times in this series the Leafs best players have had the game in their stick and in those moments they have failed to capitalize. It doesn't matter how close you are over the course of the game/series of you don't win the big moments.
<strong>Last year, Tampa was better than the Leafs for the whole first series. But they lost the big moments.
Year before the Leafs were better than tampa for most of the series, but didnt capitalize on the big moments. </strong>
The Leafs best players are losing the big moments and that's why they're losing the series.</div></div>
Simply not true... Leafs were the better team, but revisionist history says otherwise
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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>It depends, Askarov looks pretty damn good and Saros is 1 year from UFA. I don't think they would make Saros available for just the sake of trading him but if we are talking about a legitimate elite talent on offense then I could see it</div></div>
Maybe... I just see the Leafs being more invested in Woll, likely wanting surrounding pieces to help him out come playoffs instead of a replacement
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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McGruff</b></div><div>FYI
Carlo's signed until end of 2027...</div></div>
Again, through trade...
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Armchair-GM
14 hours ago
Thread:
Marner is perfect for MTL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>la_scaloneta</b></div><div>I don’t think Treliving will take any, he’s happy to have a playoff performer like Gally.</div></div>
6 points in 22 games playoff performer?
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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>Leafs are lucky Matthews with 3points and JT with a goal in the series have been lighting it up to Marners 1goal and 1 assist. (Matthews-28 Nylander-24 Tavares-36 Rielly-42) The number is how many pounds each player out weighs Marner by. He is by far the smallest guy but leaf fans expect him to play like the biggest. Besides <strong>Matthews once every 25games</strong> not one of those guys makes a check you can say makes the other team keep their head up. But Marner is the problem in the playoffs.</div></div>
He's racked up the most hit in the playoffs lol... And that's 230 lbs coming at you lol
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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>Yeah, but i still feel trading Mitch is a mistake</div></div>
Agree to disagree then?
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Doesn't matter what he said, it's just another small moment among a whole game that is getting blown way out of proportion. All so the emotional fools can go off on it.
We get it, you hate Marner. Anything you say about him is so heavily biased towards the negative that none of it has any credibility. Marner will be blamed by you no matter what.
He could dominate game 5 and get 5 points and it'll be his fault they lose 6-5.</div></div>
If Marner had 4 points these playoffs and had excellent defence, no complaints... But he's not close to that... And it's increasingly more obvious
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Because of Matthews. This is the nonsense self justification that makes conversations with too many people impossible. Bertuzzi and Domi were brought in to be playoff difference makers. And they have not made a difference.
The gameplan is the same as it's been every year under Keefe and apart from a lucky series vs Tampa, he's been beat every time. The game plan does not work.
Let's get a proper coach and see what happens.</div></div>
He got a point on Marner's goal, a beautiful play BTW... About the only time he showed up all series
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Because it has never mattered who is on the team. No one produces in the playoffs. Domi and Bertuzzi prove that without a shadow of a doubt. They disappeared after Matthews left the game. The game plan does not work. It doesn't matter who plays if the game plan sucks. Keefe's system gets exposed in the playoffs. Columbus shut him down. Montreal did next. Then Tampa and then Florida and now Boston. Keefe has been out coached every year in the playoffs. He's not a good coach.</div></div>
Bertuzzi had an assist, no? And they both helped with the following Willy chance...
If Matthews wasn't sick, they'd each have way more points already
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
Marner is perfect for MTL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>la_scaloneta</b></div><div>
But Matheson + Gallagher for Marner is a fair trade.</div></div>
With how many 1rsts to cover up that Gally contract?
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Probably not, it depends on what you view as his value. If you are looking at just regular season results then absolutely not, if you are looking at just playoffs then he will absolutely get a better return, if you are looking at both combined I think he could get like 80% of his value. Something like Saros + Tomasino + Fabbro from Nashville could be a very good basis.</div></div>
I'd like to think Saros would be a no-go from NSH, I could see them moving picks though, which could help the Leafs' pool and acquire other guys
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>What happened to Calgary after the Tkachuk trade? Who do you find to replace Marner or Nylander on the 2W</div></div>
DeBrusk, Teuvo, Marchessault, Duchene, Toffoli
Or could move Willy to 2RW and have Mantha as a 3RW or Stephenson/Henrique as 3Cs
There are tons of options
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>Hronek is an RFA, Pesce is a 5M+ D, Carlo is an ok option Manson sucks, and Andersson is an expensive D</div></div>
Via trade with Marner going the other way, it works, and Pesce's a defensemen Toronto could pair with Rielly
And Manson doesn't suck...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>Yeah he has sucked, but so has most of the leafs</div></div>
Besides Sammy and Brodie, who?
Matthews is sick and Nylander's coming back from migraines... JT has to carry Marner while still being effective and everyone else has been good
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>You are bending that situation to fit your hatred of Marner.</div></div>
Watch the lips...
And which players on the Leafs played Junior and is a forward?
JT, Marner, Domi, Robertson come to mind...
Nylander turned right to, M. Marner, Bertuzzi and Matthews as he said it leaving Marner
He also said "Stop whining M___, this isn't junior anymore"
So, has Matthews played Junior? And would Willy insult a player playing sick or the one without intensity?
Very obvious
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>I did not say good, i said OK</div></div>
Which is why I said that you are wrong,
He's been brutal
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>The only one available is Roy for Free agency</div></div>
Carlo? Pesce in FA? Andersson? Manson? There are some names that I'd be okay with on top of this, Hronek comes to mind if they want to get expensive...
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>I don't feel Marner is worth as little as AGMs have him at, 85 Points in 69 games is amazing production</div></div>
That's fair... But when you say he's been good in the playoffs, I've got to remind you that he's not doing well
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
More compete
Combine both Leafs trades and lose Minten, and Leafs say sure...
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>The problem with a marner trade, is even a great GM like Brad could not get Marner's Value back</div></div>
Frankly, don't need it... Need a top 4 RHD at under 6 mill and picks
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
17 hours ago
Thread:
Hot Take Marner Shouldnt be Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>Marner is still doing okay in the playoffs, But a lot of these marner trades make him seem like he is about as valuable as Konecny or Hall</div></div>
No, when you have multiple star players on the team calling him out on the ice and other Ex-NHLers were calling for his benching...
He's been brutal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
Marner Sucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>Marner sucks so buffalo trades all the pieces that don't suck for him. Laffs logic</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>"Marner sucks" he says as he steals huge assets for one year of him</div></div>
Pens fan... Not a Leafs fan
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