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Marner Sucks

Created by: summj_03
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 28, 2024
Published: Apr. 28, 2024
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Marner sucks so trading him to Buffalo makes sense while also getting the pieces they need in return. Reaves also sucks so trade him, his physicality is not worth him being a liability whenever he is on the ice. Signings to fill holes in the lineup.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
3$950,000
2$850,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,250,000
2$3,250,000
2$900,000
5$5,500,000
2$800,000
Trades
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2.
TOR
  1. 2025 4th round pick (NYR)
CHI
  1. Reaves, Ryan
  2. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$87,700,000$83,216,667$0$1,000,000$4,483,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
RFA
$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
UFA
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA

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Apr. 28 at 6:04 p.m.
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Marner sucks so buffalo trades all the pieces that don't suck for him. Laffs logic
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Apr. 28 at 6:05 p.m.
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At this point i am just gonna put marner's stats as a reply for every one of these bad leaf trades in 69 games, 26 Goals 59 assists 85 points
He does not suck
Apr. 28 at 6:08 p.m.
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"Marner sucks" he says as he steals huge assets for one year of him
Apr. 28 at 6:10 p.m.
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I don’t think it would be wise to tell potential trade partners that the player you’re offering up “sucks”.
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Apr. 28 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Marner sucks so buffalo trades all the pieces that don't suck for him. Laffs logic


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
"Marner sucks" he says as he steals huge assets for one year of him


Pens fan... Not a Leafs fan
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Apr. 28 at 6:15 p.m.
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What's up with that Reaves trade? Do you actually think TOR could get positive value for him? I guess I wouldn't be surprised if some tame gave up a late round pick for him, but it definitely won't be CHI.
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Apr. 28 at 6:20 p.m.
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He's a rental. I think you'll get something decent for him, the Sabres won't be trading Levi, tuch, and a first for him though. The Sabres are fine with small soft wingers, granted marner is better than them, they also aren't due 12m or so long term. Gonna have to pick a different team unless you want Skinner back as the return.
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Apr. 28 at 6:48 p.m.
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If Sabres want to target Marner, it would have to be via 2025 UFA.
Only way Leafs are going to get rid of Reaves, its via retirement
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Apr. 30 at 11:18 a.m.
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What's up with that Reaves trade? Do you actually think TOR could get positive value for him? I guess I wouldn't be surprised if some tame gave up a late round pick for him, but it definitely won't be CHI.


I could see a team like Chicago wanting to surround its younger players with veterans with a lot of experience like Reaves while also trying to hit the cap floor. May be the only thing Reaves is good for nowadays.
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Apr. 30 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: sabres89
He's a rental. I think you'll get something decent for him, the Sabres won't be trading Levi, tuch, and a first for him though. The Sabres are fine with small soft wingers, granted marner is better than them, they also aren't due 12m or so long term. Gonna have to pick a different team unless you want Skinner back as the return.


I may be overvaluing him slightly as I kind of forgot he was a rental but I can see the Sabres utilizing Levi in a trade since Uka pekka is seeming to finally pan out. Tuch while being a great player won't ever get to be near 100 points and that's not even mentioning the fact that Tuch has never played a full 82 game season in his career. A first and a goalie you may no longer need seems like a decent trade to upgrade Tuch to Marner. While Marner does suck come playoff time he may be enough to get Buffalo to make a push in the atlantic.
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Apr. 30 at 1:31 p.m.
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Quoting: summj_03
I may be overvaluing him slightly as I kind of forgot he was a rental but I can see the Sabres utilizing Levi in a trade since Uka pekka is seeming to finally pan out. Tuch while being a great player won't ever get to be near 100 points and that's not even mentioning the fact that Tuch has never played a full 82 game season in his career. A first and a goalie you may no longer need seems like a decent trade to upgrade Tuch to Marner. While Marner does suck come playoff time he may be enough to get Buffalo to make a push in the atlantic.


Tuch is a player that wants to be here. He provides leadership, size, physicality, and a two way game. We actually need more players like him. On paper, I agree, marner is so talented, but the big picture looks different if you're the Sabres.
Apr. 30 at 1:43 p.m.
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I could see a team like Chicago wanting to surround its younger players with veterans with a lot of experience like Reaves while also trying to hit the cap floor. May be the only thing Reaves is good for nowadays.

If Chicago is going to bring in veterans, they're going to be veterans that can actually play. Plus, getting to the cap floor is about the easiest problem to fix. They don't need to throw away picks or bring in washed up bums to do it.
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Apr. 30 at 7:32 p.m.
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I could see a team like Chicago wanting to surround its younger players with veterans with a lot of experience like Reaves while also trying to hit the cap floor. May be the only thing Reaves is good for nowadays.


Oh, ok. Well, CHI isn't going to pay for him, though. He would barely help us to the cap floor. Also, according to GM Kyle Davidson's exit interview, he is looking to make actual improvements to the team next year. I think, at most, Reaves gets bought out, and, at least, spends most of the season as a healthy scratch.
 
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