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Mock-Draft
Apr. 11, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
Thread:
Odds but no justice
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>not that far they dont drop </div></div>
Just two years ago, there was a prospect that many considered should be drafted in the top 10, but he fell down to 30. Obviously as a Wings fan, we're very happy that it happened, since it enabled the Wings to draft Joe Veleno.
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Mock-Draft
Apr. 9, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
Thread:
Odds but no justice
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Rip Marco Rossi</div></div>
There's always one that falls. This year it happens to be a talented but diminutive center.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 24, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
Thread:
The slow rebuild continues this offseason
Henrik is 38 with one year remaining on his contract, and he's already intimidated that he will be the odd man out, rather than Georgiev. I believe he also indicated that he doesn't want to play anywhere else than for the Rangers. At $8,5 million due for the last year of his contract, there are only a select few teams that could take on that contract.
Lundquist does not have a health condition right now, so the reality is they can't go the route of putting him on LTIR. The league would not allow that precedent to be set, as other teams would gladly jump on that bandwagon to rid themselves of albatross contracts, with the Wings being one of those teams: think Abdelkader, Nielsen, etc.
The Rangers are also in a predicament with their RFAs needing to be signed and limited cap space, especially since the cap may stay the same or actually decrease next year due to what is happening right now. That makes them vulnerable to overspend on a trade to fee cap room to keep cap compliant. Since the pick is a 2021 1sr round, the Rangers may feel they will make they playoffs next year and possibly go deep. That would make the pick a late 1st round, so that could make the trade more palatable in their eyes.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 18, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.
Thread:
the worlds most cruel notion
Ovechkin would just retire, leaving the Wings to be basement dwellers for years!
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 11, 2020 at 8:50 a.m.
Thread:
What does the future hold-lafreniere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>I want atleast one signing on the blue line. A ld to play with seider, edmunson or scandella kinda guy to help the rookie</div></div>
Unless Dekeyser's injury is career ending, Nemeth will probably be Mo's partner on the left side. I don't think there will be a FA signing on Defense if Dekeyser is back.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 16, 2019 at 9:20 p.m.
Thread:
Yzerman continues to mold his team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CPL</b></div><div>Nylander is not exactly ripping it up either. Nylander has 23pts in 34 games. AA has 16 in 30. Don't forget Detroit has also scored 34 fewer goals. The big stat is AA is -33 which would win any golf tournament he entered.</div></div>
Besides what you have stated, I was thinking Toronto really needs some cap relief, and they want a young cost-controlled offensive defenseman. By getting AA, it gives them a dynamic scoring wing that should re-sign at a reasonable cap hit. Adding Cholowski in the deal, they get the young defenseman that has the potential of a top 4 D-man and the ability to QB a power play.
Detroit gets the elite Center they cover to shore up the position now, as well as years to come.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 6, 2019 at 10:13 p.m.
Thread:
2020 Trade deadline and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I agree but their best defensive prospects are Makar (technically still a prospect) and Byram and there is absolutely ZERO chance of getting either of them. After that there isn't a d prospect that is very impressive. So Kaut, Timmons and 2020 1st round pick (COL) but I don't see Colorado making that trade.</div></div>
There is no way Colorado would give up Kaut (#16 pick in 2018), Timmons (#32 pick in 2017) and their 2020 1st round pick for AA. If the Wings got Kaut and their 2020 1st rounder, something a little more possible, I would do that deal in a heartbeat.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 9, 2019 at 11:04 p.m.
Thread:
The Purge
Upgrade left side of D and I just have the feeling Zadina will turn out OK, but Bokk may be better in the long run
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 21, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread:
Yzerman improves the defense and accelerates the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JMeyer18</b></div><div>EDM is already strapped for cash, wouldnt make sense for them to take on more. We could take on Cally's deal but Point is an extreme over payment especially with only 1 year left. I think a pick and a prospect to the wings would be fair. Taylor Raddysh has always had my attention. The Trouba deal.. Again, an over payment to a team that is in a pickle. If WPG is looking to get rid of Trouba I think the 2 draft picks you listed would be enough. However, as a rebuilder I'm not excited about giving away draft picks.</div></div>
Overpayment by Tampa, why when you're returning a young and proven center/wing in AA along with the two draft picks. The Wings get a young cornerstone center to have two of the top young centers in the league, as well as potentially having your top two lines with players all under 25.
For Trouba, giving up a young second pair defenseman and two seconds for a young top-pair defenseman to ensure he comes "home" rather than taking a chance for him to go somewhere else is decent for both teams. It also gives WPG much needed cap space to sign Laine, Conner, and possibly keep Hayes from going somewhere else.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 19, 2019 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
Yzerman quickly makes his mark on the Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Ducks decline. Hughes and Kakko are going 1 and 2, after that, 3-10 all have similar upside. If there was a clear cut 3rd OA guy, maybe, but mock drafts have the same 7-8 guys flipping all over the place.</div></div>
Podkkolzin (most have him rated at #3) is considered above the others in talent, IQ, inner drive, etc. The only issue most teams see is he's under contract with St Petersberg for two years. The Ducks are looking at the future, and he's just too good to pass up by trading up to 6.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EzioUchiha</b></div><div>Byram over Broberg</div></div>
Byram is already gone in the top five, so dropping down to take Broberg makes more sense.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 13, 2019 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
2019 Red Wings draft day and continuing the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>You’re not going to get an extra 1st for 1 spot</div></div>
I thought about adding the Wings 2019 3rd round pick, which would probably help make it go
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 8, 2019 at 5:29 p.m.
Thread:
2019 Red Wings draft day and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>It's no surprise who you (or anyone else) would take at #2. What I want to know is who you're thinking about at #4.</div></div>
At #4, I would expect Hughes, Kakko, and Podkolzin to be gone. Then if Buffalo wants to move up one spot by giving the Wings their other 1st round pick (via St Louis), I do that trade in a heartbeat. Otherwise I would take Cozens. He fits the Wings profile of drafting Centers with a high hockey IQ ithat can also play the Wing. Being very fast, big, and a right handed shot is another enticing piece to add to this roster.
The following lines, if not this coming year, will probably be in place for the 2020-21 season, should give opposing teams fits with their skill and speed.
Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha
Hirose - AA - Cozens
Ras - Veleno - Zadina
All that most see on Defense are the aging vets, but I also see promise and depth coming by 2020-21 (Cholowski in 2019-20, McIsaac, Sulak, and Lindstrom) including a potential stud UFA defenseman in Trouba.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 10:59 p.m.
Thread:
2019 Draft draft day deal and the setup for 2020-21 UFA signings
My thoughts are around setting up the roster for 2020 opening day and taking into account all of the expiring contracts on D: Kronwall, Green, Daley and Ericsson. I'm hoping that the rumors of Trouba joining the Wings in 2020 come true. There will be a huge influx of young talent on defense that will probably have some of them get a sniff of playing in the NHL in 2019 due to injuries. I would be very happy with the following defensive pairs in 2020:
Dekeyer - Trouba
Cholowski - Hamilton
Sulak - Hronek
Until after the 2019 draft, I really can't figure out who will be on the opening day roster for 2020 other than Larkin, AA, Mantha, Bertuzzi, Rasmussen, Zadina and probably a bunch of underperforming 4th liners: Abby, Helm, Glendening, Ehn, de La Rose, and Nielsen. The Wings really need another high end Center as well as Veleno in their top-9. AA may end up in that role, but I would prefer that he stays on the wing, only moving to center when injuries happen.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16, 2019 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
MCF 2019 TDL and controversial offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Yeah Detroit's not giving Trouba $9.5 million per, He's worth maybe $2 million less then that. Trouba will get about 7 x 7.5 on the open market. Other then that nice job.</div></div>
If Trouba signed for $7.5 mil x 7 years, I would have also signed UFA Ryan Dzingel for $4.5 mil x 5 years.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2019 at 5:01 p.m.
Thread:
MCF 2019 TDL - TOR rumors and minimal moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Thats a no from Toronto.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TavaresIsALeaf</b></div><div>Maybe if the Leafs also toss in Marner it'd balance the trade lol</div></div>
Well what happens if DET signs him to an offer sheet for $4,000,000. Marner is expecting $10.5-$11 million per year, and they still have RFAs Ozhiganov and Johnsson as well as wanting to sign UFA Gardiner? That's going to be tough, although they could potentially move another key player in a panic.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 5, 2019 at 8:37 p.m.
Thread:
MCF 2019 TDL staying the rebuild course
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Jets can't afford the local kid but thanks anyway.</div></div>
I forgot to include $1,850,000 in retained salary in the trade. Might make the trade palatable.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 5, 2019 at 8:28 p.m.
Thread:
MCF 2019-20 road back to respectability but just short of playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hackadart</b></div><div>Leafs match</div></div>
It might be real hard for them to match, given the contract Matthews just got ($11.67 mil per year). They still have to sign Marner and others, so $3.5 mil may be too much for Toronto to handle.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 19, 2019 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread:
This would be the most cool
All moves are pipe dreams, i.e. someone's smokin something funny! I'm a Detroit fanatic, and these are all unrealistic.
Veleno and Cozens are 1st round picks with salary slotted at $925,000
RFA Trouba may be offered $5.5 mil. He will not give a home town discount less than $7 mil, and Winnipeg would match that $5.5 mil in a heartbeat.
The other two trades are way too one-sided. The only potential way they would happen is if Chiarelli was the GM pulling the trigger!
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 14, 2019 at 9:02 p.m.
Thread:
Wishfull thinking
Detroit says No, because they will not give up a young potential core piece and two high draft picks for that much money and term commitment for Fowler. Eaves is more of a salary dump to a team that doesn't need more bad contracts.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 13, 2019 at 2:45 p.m.
Thread:
MCF 2019 Costly but Successful Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ComYog</b></div><div>Okay Jensen does have value to them but I dont think you get Kap, nor would I say he is disapointing.</div></div>
I didn't say disappointing either. I said under-whelming. At this point, he hasn't lived up to his draft position. And the fact the Leafs have to resign RFAs Matthews, Marner, and UFA Gardiner just makes him a little harder to resign this offseason. With this trade you get two really good role players your coach wants and team needs for probably less of a cap hit than signing Kap.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 13, 2019 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
MCF 2019 Costly but Successful Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div> But how is Howard worth more than Bob? I think Bob is a overated/overhyped. Take away his vezina years and hess been pretty average. But i still would not swap him for Howard straight much less add picks.</div></div>
I'm not saying Howard is worth more. It's just that Bob has potentially become a locker room cancer, and it gives CBJ stability with a good locker room presence.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ComYog</b></div><div>Kapanen isnt being traded away for spare parts</div></div>
Not spare parts when you think these are players Babcock loves and has familiarity with. LGD is one of the top faceoff men in the NHL. Come playoffs, Babcock will exploit his skills. Besides being a right shot, Jensen has become a very solid mobile defenseman. With the injuries Detroit has had on the blue line this year, he's played against the premier players and handled himself very well, as well as logging very big minutes most games.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 2, 2019 at 6:04 p.m.
Thread:
Nyquist Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I looked up Merkley and on sites that rank prospects he's ranked as high as 1st and as low as 6th. If it was 1 for 1 would you trade for him then.</div></div>
Here is a huge reason why he tumbled so far in the draft. He's a great offensive talent for a defenseman but an extreme defensive liability. I sort of compare him to Brendan Smith, although more polarizing with better offensive ability and worse defensively. With him also being major headcase, I would pass on him even at 1 for 1 with Nyquist.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 1, 2019 at 3:03 p.m.
Thread:
Nyquist Trade
No way Holland does this trade, as this is way too lopsided for an unknown. Merkley is talented, but an extreme headcase, and this goes against Detroit's philosophy for strong character people.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 31, 2018 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
decision time
Detroit will only take draft picks for Glendening, which would probably be Edm's 2019 2nd round and possibly more.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 6, 2017 at 8:37 p.m.
Thread:
2017 Minimal moves but start of rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>You're basically asking Philly to give up a 1st rounder for an old Howard and scraps.</div>
Detroit's problem wasn't with the goalie, as their horrible defense left Howard and Mrazek out to dry on many occasions, and they couldn't score if their life depended on it. They are needing a full rebuild and shedding the albatross contracts of Helm, Abdelkader, Nyquist, Ericsson, Kronwall, etc.
Even though Philly didn't make the playoffs this year, their poor goal-tending certainly didn't help. Even at 33, Howard (2.1 GAA and .910 SV%) certainly played better than Mason (2.66 GAA and .908 SV%) and Neuvirth (2.82 GAA and .890 SV%). Philly has a good young corp on D (Gudas, Manning, Ghost and Provorov) and at forward (Giroux, Voracek, Schenn, Coutourier, Simmonds, etc. ), as well as prospects in the pipeline. I'm assuming they are going to get Nolan Patrick in this year's draft to add to that core. IMO they are ready to take that next step into the playoffs, and they need a decent goalie to put them into contention.
As far as calling Smith and the 2018 3rd round pick (in a strong draft) scraps, Givani Smith was selected at #46 in the second round last year. He looks and plays like a young Wayne Simmonds, which happens to be who he patterns his game on. IMO the only reason he fell into the second round was that he played on a horrible team in juniors. If he would have played on a decent team, he would have been a high second or even a late first rounder not much behind Robstov. Detroit needs a center prospect more than a wing, especially with Zetterberg on his last legs.
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