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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa needs the cap to rise to 85 million to comfortably sign their RFAs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>As it stands right now there's no way I'd give $9 million to DeBrincat. Taking into account an extremely talented forward coming from the draft in this scenario, no way in hell I give DeBrincat that contract.</div></div>

I feel strongly that DeBrincat will go back to scoring 40 goals again if we replace Coach DJ.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.

Thread: Colton and Max

Oh hell nah. Wouldn’t even give that up for Chychrun who’s 5 years younger

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.

Thread: What we gained and lost from the Nikita Zaitsev experiment

At the time of the deal, I think there was hope that Zaitsev would rediscover the game he had as a rookie. The Sens has given up on Ceci. And Connor Brown was a very tough pill for me to swallow as a Leafs fan.

Zaitsev didn't work in Ottawa, clearly. But, that was a risk at a time when the Sens were in full fledged rebuild mode - a time when the assets gain outweighed what was lost.

Discussing the whole "was it worth it"? This is one of those deals where you don't have that discussion. The initial deal made sense at the time. The subsequent deal makes sense at this time.

More a is what it is.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2023 at 11:41 p.m.

Thread: Get a D asap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I would play JBD full time on the 3rd pair next year so that leaves a hole on the 2nd pair</div></div>

same. I would trade brannstrom because big boy Kleven will take his spot 3rd LD.

Chabot - Zub
Sandy - _____
Kleven- JBD

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2023 at 9:13 a.m.

Thread: Another game Dorion scouting the LA Kings

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>For Chabot lol</div></div>

When all the players are struggling defensively, maybe it would be more cautious to change management/coaching before the players. And see from there

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

Thread: The worst part of a rebuild is when you need to rebuild your rebuild

Just rebuild management/coaching and go from there

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17, 2023 at 2:05 a.m.

Thread: Time for surgery

FFS OTT does not want Myers how many canuck fans do we have to tell?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 14, 2023 at 10:41 p.m.

Thread: Crying

Or.... hear me out here... the coach is not good. Ottawa has 5 dmen who can play regularly on a playoff team, they need a coach who isn't the **** son of Mike Babcock.

You can upgrade on Holden or leave room for JBD, but Chabot, Zub, Sanderson and Brannstrom are all worth hanging on to. They ABSOLUTELY need to bring in a good 2RD, but personnel isn't the reason they are bad defensively. They haven't had any defensive structure in 5 years.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.

Thread: Crying but with brain

Yeah, Preds would be very very thankful for this trade...

Fabbro is not as good as you seem to think, watch him play closely

Ekholm has been a great player and might have a few good years left (basically the last 3 years of his contract) but Chabot is still 25 y/o. He just needs the right coaching and some more responsible defensively forwards

I would change MANAGEMENT and COACHING before changing the core players... which will absolutely happen once the team is sold.

Be patient (I know it's frustrating)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 3, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.

Thread: Yzerman 3D Chess

This is more like 3D Rock, paper, scissors where you end up with a black eye, no fingers and a HELP ME letter written in blood. Then again how would you write the letter with no fingers? Only Steve Yzerman really knows.

Forum: NHL SigningsDec. 22, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Artem Zub (4 Years / $4,600,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I am curious to see how they fit Pinto, Debrincat and Sanderson under the cap without blowing their depth in the next 2 seasons</div></div>

Tell anyone on defence not named Zub, Chabot or Sanderson to leave

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 22, 2022 at 10:14 p.m.

Thread: I hate the hurricanes

Pens fans let me know below 👇 who we can acquire so we don’t get out-cycled by CAR, out-muscled by WSH, and out-skated by TOR…. Also is anyone else starting to hate Jordan staal?!?

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 22, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.

Thread: da moneies

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheeDjeeEem</b></div><div>how is he worth anywhere near that? At 6M he was arguably not worth Korchinski ++ but at 9M he's not worth more than a late 1st at best.</div></div>

He’s an RFA not ufa . A late 1st? Really? Chicago wanted the highest pick they could get and sacrificed everything else for it because they didn’t have their own pick. The Sens will not want a futures based deal. If he’s traded it’s for a similar Dman

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 21, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.

Thread: Does this get it done

depends on what you trade him. He has a 2m signing bonus next year, Trade him after the Sens pay him the bonus, yeah a team would probably take the additional aav off the sens hands since he would only have a base salary of 2.5m bucks. The teams who can weaponize their cap space and probably on his 10 team NTC could be tricky though,

Try to trade him before the bonus is paid, I dont think you will find a market for him

Forum: NHL SigningsDec. 21, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Artem Zub (4 Years / $4,600,000 AAV)

Very team-friendly contract for a solid RD. Not too expensive and not too long. Zub might not be a 1RD on a championship team, but he is still a good partner for Chabot.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 19, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: Lets Go

Ottawa is not spending a 2nd on a cap dump.

Try again.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2022 at 9:05 a.m.

Thread: Getting ANA Back on Track Year 1

As much as I like the positive thinking, Ottawa will have zero to little interest in a "Klingberg style" of D-man. They'll have zero inclination to trade 1 valuable, cost controlled asset in JBD (who's going to be either Chabot or Sandersons partner this year once he comes back from injury), let alone 2 for a UFA defenseman entering his twilight years. Ottawa is the wrong trade partner, I'm afraid.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 8, 2022 at 12:22 p.m.

Thread: I have a feeling Pierre Dorion will get desperate and overpay for Chychrun

I'm really not sold on Chychrun. Too many surgeries already and that injury trend will continue unless he stops playing the style of game that makes him a player worth having.

BUT if this were to happen the '23 pick should be top 5 protected and just remove Thomson completely. That would still be too much IMO, but whatever...

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 8, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.

Thread: Senucks

Is Horvat extending? If not, that trade is a pretty big loss for Ottawa when he walks.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 5, 2022 at 4:15 p.m.

Thread: with fantilli

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>It’s because you think that the only way to get rid of Zaitsev is by trading him

But look how the team got rid of some of Dorion mistakes

Matt Murray and Dion Phaneuf retained salary

Bobby Ryan, Colin White and Michael Del Zotto bought out. They could have paid another team to take them but it just made much more sense to buy them out. Draft picks have value ($$$) to teams. That is why teams are ready to buy players out IF the cost and the cap penalty doesn’t exceed the value they attribute to the assets they would have to lose by trading

In this particular case, 1.67 M$ spread over 2 years is nothing. The only issue is the cap penalty for the FIRST year but if the cap really goes up to 86.5 M$, then it’s easily manageable. The cap penalty for the 2nd year is very low so not a problem anymore… plus, most of that dead money will expire in the meantime

That’s the reality of having a rookie GM making a lot of mistakes…</div></div>

$2.8 million the first year is a big deal, even if the cap goes up a lot it will still be difficult to improve the team. That's why I'd trade a pick to get rid of Zaitsev.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsDec. 6, 2022 at 8:22 a.m.

Thread: Ottawa wants Anderson

Ottawa isn't going to trade a top 10 pick for Anderson and Montreal won't take Formenton.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 5, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Scouting HABS games for possible trade

Ottawa is not swapping a cap dump + two 1st round picks in value for an even bigger cap dump.

Try again.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 5, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: Ottawa Scouting HABS games for possible trade

Ottawa shouldn't be giving up any '23 draft picks right now, and certainly not throwing in a decent prospect, too. Wideman isn't an upgrade over Zaitsev in anything but cap hit, and seeing as they don't need to move cap right now, I don't see any reason why Ottawa is doing this.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 1, 2022 at 9:52 p.m.

Thread: Zaitsev Move Imminent

The 2023 1st shouldn’t be moved

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 29, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.

Thread: Monster team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>It is perfectly manageable

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/647528

Zaitsev buyout is a no brainer at this point. I also wouldn't give ADB 9.0 M$ per season but maybe that's just me</div></div>

Hmm, he makes good points.

I still think he will be relatively easy to trade once the Sens pay his bonus on July 1st.

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