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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.

Thread: EZPZ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zadinaveleno</b></div><div>Detroit accepts</div></div>

You see his numbers for the last few years? We can get an on-par or better tender via free agency. I’d think DET declines.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.

Thread: torts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ReelBigFan</b></div><div>Burt isn’t worth 5OA

Not even with a cap dump…

So pass by Philly. But I don’t hate the basic idea, just need to work a better deal out…</div></div>

Curious, remove Foerster and keep the cap dump. Would you do it then? Or more of a need to sign and trade Bert?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.

Thread: torts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carts88</b></div><div>5th overall and one of the best prospects For Bertuzzi is ridiculous</div></div>

My guess is part of it is for the JVR dump, but yeah if I’m PHI idk if I’m doing that given their performance last year. Idk if I’d go as far to say a full rebuild, as they should be better under Torts and team on paper in general should be better.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.

Thread: Potential UFA signings

Don’t see the Wings signing a 31 year old coming off the IR to a 4 year deal. Plus he isn’t a Center, they need a center. Rather not throw that much money at Campbell either for the sole purpose of the 23 draft is deep. These moves are not enough to get them to playoffs, only no man’s land middle of the pack where you rarely get a top end pick and never seem to get over the playoff hump.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2022 at 9:48 a.m.

Thread: Sabres

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>I think the Detroit trade is close. Yzerman would love to add another 1st this year, they should be able to get a good prospect at 16. I have no interest in Middlestadt, someone like Peterka would probably get it done.</div></div>

Agreed, Cozens swapped out for Middle seems like too much but definitely need a sweetener. Also see DET more likely to trade an extended Bert which will raise his value.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.

Thread: Revamped Defense and 2nd Line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Detroit accepts, and since you're not keeping Nylander please add him too.</div></div>

Feel Pets value is closer to a late 3rd. Rather the Wings grab a plug-in LHD via FA.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.

Thread: young competitive and still a shot at bedard

Bert should be a sign and trade, if not he likely isn’t moved prior to the 2022 draft. Sign and trade will raise his value.

Hold on to the 8OA. Wings are not in a position to package futures, but all for trying to acquire the 2OA. Would rather see a package of Bert (sign and trade) + Hronek.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.

Thread: Playoff Team

7x6.85m for Trochek, yikes! That’s a bidding war we are not ready to get into. Also don’t think that is enough to be a playoff team. Enough for playoff bubble maybe, or meddling in the middle of the pack for years which will only hurt more.

I’ll continue to preach tank for one more year, get a free agent plugins, and look to be more aggressive next year with a deeper free agency.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.

Thread: Moving 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian</b></div><div>Sounds like BS to me, unless he's pretty dumb. This team is nowhere near winning now, so that would be foolish mistake.</div></div>

Agree it’s dumb too and those comments were made before they won the 2OA lottery so it’s possible it changed. Same with the Wings, any roster player trade mocked that they pay assets/futures for I think are dumb as well.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 1:30 p.m.

Thread: Moving 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian</b></div><div>According to who?

Considering they are going to pick Slafkovsky, I can't see them wanting Bert or another winger.</div></div>

The Devils post season media availability? Fitzgerald claimed he’s open to moving the 1st for a player that can help them now and in the short term.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.

Thread: Moving 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian</b></div><div>Why would the Devils be trading 2OA for an expiring winger and a prospect?</div></div>

And a 2nd! I noted the need to do a sign and trade sweetener above. They are at the very least more open to moving the pick than most are for a ‘needs now’ addition so not too far out of the realm as some of these posts are.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.

Thread: Moving 2

Can’t speak for Devils fans, but I think you need to sweeten it a little more. Either sign and trade Bert and/or swap out Johansson w/ Hronek.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.

Thread: Detroit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drleo</b></div><div>Don't seethe so much because someone called your idea unrealistic and stupid. It's a bad look.</div></div>

Ditto. So why don’t the 2 of you agree to disagree and meet in between. B/c I would do it for a 1st in a heartbeat but sure as **** wouldn’t do you any favors for a 3rd.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 11:40 a.m.

Thread: Deacon King

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>Is it just me, or has the amount of trolls that have shown up on here increased lately?</div></div>

CFACGM in a nutshell for you.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.

Thread: Deacon King

Oh my… comments above speak for it enough.

Just tank.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.

Thread: Red Wings Dynasty

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canesfan21_</b></div><div>Arizona laughs you off the call</div></div>

Because Chychrun is sick? Not saying it’s a fair trade, but temper your expectations a little.

DET calls back says “nice rink” and hangs up.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.

Thread: Red Wings Dynasty

Idk about dynasty. Definitely playoff contention, but not comparable to the league heavyweights. Honestly this isn’t the time to go for it, team has too many holes and would be better off being bad.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.

Thread: Bert

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>This seems like a very CAR type move, but I don't know how DET fans feel about the assets, although the few I saw thinking that Bertuzzi was worth the 2OA won't find much deserving.</div></div>

Straight up for 2OA!? Some people straight goofin on here. He doesn’t even have an extension yet and 100% would need to be packaged for even a shot at the 2OA.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 9:58 a.m.

Thread: Jonah

I don’t dislike Blais, just don’t see DET giving up picks for a bottom 6 forward with some upside.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.

Thread: 2023 wooooo

Wings aren’t giving up a 2nd in a deep draft nor the additional pick for a tender with free agent comparables that can be had for free.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.

Thread: Cabbies 32 in 32

You can probably get a late 3rd for Pett. Im not giving up a 3rd for him if Im the Wings, 4th+5th sure.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.

Thread: Jets 2022-2023

Atleast it’s a left D. Morrissey is not at all worth that much and Wings wouldn’t make that trade anyways as they are not in a position to give up futures yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2022 at 2:58 p.m.

Thread: Rangers Side of the Mega Deal AGM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>Disagree. He is only 28. He likely has another 5 good years in his prime. He reminds me of McDonaugh, look at what he is doing for Tampa at 33. Wings should be ready to contend by 23/24. Also Bert was moved for Trouba, Chytil and a 1st. Those are futures....</div></div>

Did you watch the 2nd half of the season? This team is farrrr from Stanley Cup contention, no way they are ready to contend in 23/24. Bubble team potentially yes. Stevie preached patience and more patience is needed…

Let me rephrase futures to better futures. And Trouba is a now option not a future, plus he’s a RHD, Wings need LHD… Much rather see Bert packaged for 2OA pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.

Thread: 1 for 1

Trollllllll

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2022 at 11:06 a.m.

Thread: Rangers Side of the Mega Deal AGM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>Disagree. Trouba is exactly what Detroit needs. Veteran D that can provide leadership and is hard to play against. He drastically improves the back end. Chytil is a good option at 2 C, not great but the 1st rounder makes it worth it. Zadina and Kakko is essentially an equal swap.</div></div>

Trouba does not fit the Wings timeline. He’s a good player, homegrown and was a Wings fan back in the day, but he’ll be out of his prime by the time the Wings are in playoff contention again. Rather the Wings trade Bert for futures if he is traded.

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