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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2018 at 1:54 p.m.
Thread: Reasonable Patch trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StuTheSniper</b></div><div>That trade has been speculated for a while... McDavid feeding Patch would be unreal.

On a side note: looks like you're taking Veleno pretty high. Can't see the Habs taking him unless they find themselves with a pick in the 12-17 range.</div></div>

Yeah I'm definitely not the first one to put that trade out there lol, and I think it makes a ton of sense for both teams. And even though Pacioretty only has one year of contract left, if it works out with McDavid (which I really think it would), I'm sure Edmonton could work out an extension pretty easily.

I've watched Veleno a few times this season and at the Mem Cup last year, and yeah I am really, really high on him. His stock really cratered early this season because he produced below expectations on a bad team, but since being traded to a good team he's been on fire. He's McKeen's top ranked center in the draft now. If the Habs have Dahlin, Zadina, Tkatchuk or Svechnikov available to them then yeah I can't see them picking Veleno. But the more I think on it, basically any draft position after that I think they should pick him. Given how badly they need good young talent at center I don't think they can afford to pass on a 6'1 200 center who has exceptional vision, very good skating, good puck protection skills, already 3 full seasons of junior experience, and is from Mtl to boot. I actually think it's a no brainer.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2018 at 8:08 p.m.
Thread: Realistic trade with Calgary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>There's a possibility there, but you don't trade Gallagher straight up for a possibility. Flames don't have much to add to make it happen, without their early picks this season. Dube would be the next best thing.</div></div>

Yeah I pretty much agree, I think Pacioretty might make more sense for the Habs given his age and contract situation, but I'm not sure it's as good of a fit for Calgary. Maybe they could move Tkatchuk to the RW though...

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeylover360</b></div><div>Gally is way more valuable than Bennett. Sorry. Pass from Montreal.</div></div>

Yeah of course he is now, but in 1 or 2 years time? Could be a different story, Bennett is still very young. Gally was just starting his first season in the NHL at Bennett's age.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29, 2018 at 7:31 p.m.
Thread: St-Louis Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lavsim96</b></div><div>yea I get it, and I tell you what mate: don't hope for the habs to pick somebody. They gona pass on him and leave it to another team to develop him and leave you frustrated aha. My latest dissapointement came when I was hoping the Habs would draft Debrincat but nooope they decided to trade the pick to CHI for a third-line grinder and now the Hawks has one of the top rookie this year in Debrincat :(</div></div>

Yeah I hear you about Debrincat, and it actually gets worse with that draft lol because Trevor Timmins confirmed afterward with french media that they were very high on defenseman Samuel Girard, who was still available at 45 which was the other pick the Habs sent to Chicago for Shaw, and Timmins all but confirmed they would've picked him at that spot :(.

I actually don't hate Bergevin as much as other people, but that Shaw trade really hurts given who was still available in that draft, it's indefensible. On the whole though I think at least our amateur scouting is quite good (eg.: Sergachev, Juulsen, Scherbak, Lehkonen all solid picks) and Debrincat + Girard would've been excellent, but questionable moves by management have hurt player development, no doubt about it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29, 2018 at 6:47 p.m.
Thread: St-Louis Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lavsim96</b></div><div>NO! Carey is NOT getting traded anytime soon, he is in MTL to stay. He has a full NMC and an enormous cap hit and R.Thomas is a very highly valued prospect by the Blues and is pretty much untouchable.</div></div>

Yeah I agree it's super far fetched lol. Just throwing it out there since there was a rumour flying around that the Blues came calling about Carey, and Thomas and Allen were involved... Even though Thomas is highly rated I think it would still take another prospect, and I can't see them trading Kyrou or Fabbri so I picked Kostin. You have to admit the Habs offense on this roster would have potential.

On the draft if the Habs can't get Zadina or Dahlin too, I hope they go with Hughes, really love his upside and with a full NCAA season already under his belt come draft time, he might not be so far from the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2017 at 9:55 p.m.
Thread: Filling holes (giggity)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>see your error is trying to value what they could do .
in the NHL you get paid primarily based on results hence over paid contracts like
Plekanec, DD,Emelin and so many others .

if your logic on any level made sense players wouldnt be overpaid lol .
nor would players like Marchesault be floating around .


Kozlov again was seasons removed from his last 30 goals season and still demanded Hasek the leagues best goalie .
the reality is being a multiple 30 goal scorer isnt as common as you pretend it is</div></div>

I am taking into account what both players have done, but a trade is a not a contract negotiation. You have to project what both players will do with your own group of players in the future. Plus age and contract are major factors in determining trade value.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2017 at 9:13 p.m.
Thread: Filling holes (giggity)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>patches is worth more then RNH
30 goals scorers ALWAYS are .
FFS Kozlov never scored 30 again after leaving
he still demanded Dominik Hasek in his prime in return i **** you not

E.Kane got a 1st round pick and 4 prospects (3 former 1st rounds and a former 2nd)</div></div>

Kane was 24 years old with multiple years left on his contract. Patch will be 30 next season, which is also his last before becoming UFA, so I don't think it's comparable at all. Not to mention, Patch is not a 30 goal scorer this season. Will he be again? Maybe, especially with a talented playmaking center to play with, but also maybe not. It's not uncommon at all for goal scoring wingers' production to start declining at 30 years old, especially those whose speed is important to their scoring, and Patch seems to have lost a step this season. A better comparable would probably be the Marian Gaborik trade to Columbus, which saw Derek Brassard (a similar player to RNH) being the main piece going the other way.

Nugent-Hopkins is 5 years younger than Patch, plays a more important position, is a very good defensive player, and is also more productive than Pacioretty this season. Given where they both are right now, he is easily the more valuable player.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2017 at 1:52 p.m.
Thread: Time to piss people off on the internet again!
Interesting article, I really like Travis Yost's column. I'm not sure I agree with his premise at the outset when he claims the trade has backfired though, and that it forced the Habs in a win-now mode, and the contract is horrible. Because then he goes on to describe how Weber is still an elite first pairing defensive defenseman, which is exactly what the Habs wanted and expected. I guess the view on the contract and "win-now" idea all depends on how much longer you think Weber can keep up this level of play. I really don't think it's inconceivable that he could maintain something reasonably close to this level for the next 5 seasons, after which we might see a slight dropoff, similar to Chara (who is still a pretty good defender at 40). If that's the case then the criticism about the contract being awful and the move putting the Habs in win-now mode just don't hold water in my opinion.

Even if the next move is a retool/rebuild, re-whatever-you-wanna-call-it, moving Weber is not the correct move, it would decimate a weak defense even more, with no replacement waiting in the wings. Elements of the core need to be changed for sure, but I would be targeting guys like Pacioretty and Galchenyuk well before I think about trading Weber. The Habs should also seriously consider selling off assets early this season if it does not turn around in the next two weeks, to guarantee a top 5 pick in the upcoming draft. Things change very fast in the NHL, making the right impact trade and picking up an elite young player for free in the draft could revamp this roster into something very competitive as soon as next season.

Side note, retaining salary on both Price and Weber's contract would absolutely wreck this organization for the next decade :S
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 20, 2017 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread: Arizona trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>If the goal is to try and compete still (MB mentality) than yeah I'd be ok with it. I wouldn't though simply because this team needs to rebuild and sell off assets for futures.</div></div>

Yeah I pretty much agree. Then again I'm just not sure what the heck to expect from Galchenyuk here anymore, and if ever Arizona was even remotely interested in him (or Pacioretty for that matter) then I think the Habs would need to explore something like this. Either way two things need to be added to the roster, a 1D and a 1C, most likely one has to come via trade and the other via a top 5 pick in the upcoming draft. If ever OEL was available, which despite what Chayka insists, I think is a very real possibility, Habs need to be in on that. An OEL-Weber top pairing completely changes the whole D unit and the team.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2017 at 9:50 p.m.
Thread: Habs get lucky in the lottery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jordant89</b></div><div>Now from a Leafs fan. Gotta ask you a question does getting lucky and winning the lottery and drafting Dahlin, then signing Tavares win the Habs a Stanley Cup? Does it turn the Habs into the next dynasty? I say No. You have to bite the bullet an suck like the Penguins did, the Blackhawks did , and the Leafs have done recently. Am i certain the Leafs will win a Cup or multiple... No. But I love or chances, we have a great stable of young talent and more to back them up in the system. The whole Habs system is broken as it was in the Kessel era of Toronto, talent was around just not the right mix at the right time. Gotta blow it up in Montreal.</div></div>

Thanks for the reply. I actually do think the above roster would be very competitive, 2 impactful players like them at key spots can completely transform a team because it has a trickle down effect on the rest of the roster. Dahlin-Weber would probably be reminiscent of Josi-Weber and one of the better top pairings in the game. I think Tavares-Pacioretty could be pretty explosive and Drouin-Galchenyuk on a second line is good depth. If we assume that Price returns to being a top 5 goalie in the game, all of that combined could be good enough to make significant noise in the playoffs in my opinion. Win it all? Tough to say, it's a bit of a crap shoot these days with the parity, but yes I think they'd have an actual chance.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2017 at 3:32 a.m.
Thread: Losing some tension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MajesticWalrus</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>

Again goes to show your a troll, Juulsen and Schlemko have been injured since training camp. Alzner is way better than Emelin, and Mete is playing how MTL fans wanted Beaulieu to play but he never did. What is really hurting the Habs d-core is no Markov, and that is one of the reasons why Bergevin is getting a lot of criticism.

The other Habs Dmen issues is how their depth guys aren’t stepping up (Davidson, Morrow, Benn) and how poorly Petry has been playing.

Right now Benn and Petry have been playing a lot better, and the depth issue should be fixed when Juulsen and Schlemko return to play. Habs right now have 5wins in their last 6. The panic period at the beginning of this season is over and things have settled down. So again, go troll somewhere else.</div></div>

Until price comes back. They've done well in their past few games because of Lindgren. Who has been great. I'm not a troll, I just call it how I see it, if you don't like that go fantasize elsewhere.</div></div>

If you think Price will continue playing like he did in the first 10 games of this season, as opposed to how he's played during the previous 5 years, then you are trolling.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 8, 2017 at 3:36 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 8, 2017 at 3:30 p.m.
Thread: Price wont stay with the Habs this season according to an insider
Assuming Arizona's first rounder is the first overall pick (only way Habs would even entertain this), I'm not sure the Coyotes would want to make this move. Sure they could use the goaltending help and by all accounts they want to start winning now, but their core is still young so wouldn't it make more sense for them to add a generational young defenseman to that mix? Then they can trade OEL for goaltending help and get someone younger/cheaper than Price. I just don't see it happening, and in fact even if the Habs did want to trade Price, I honestly don't see a fit anywhere in the league where they would get fair value back that would fit their needs (elite number 1 defenseman or center), no other team in a position to make that deal would do it...