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Toby_flenderson
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 9, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers 22-23 Debrincat
Devils counter with a third rounder in 2024 for McDavid and draisaitl. Stop being ridiculous and know who ur trading for before ya make these ridiculous trades
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 9, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.
Thread:
Trying to be realistic on Fiala
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>iAce</b></div><div>Why would I full stop on Luke Hughes? There's really only 3 pieces from NJD that are even remotely tradeable that would help the Wild. Mercer, Luke Hughes and their first rounder this year unprotected. I don't think they are willing to move Holtz. Holtz has a higher ceiling than Mercer. Jack and Nico are really off the table and should be.</div></div>
Mercer has shown that he can play in the NHL. Same as Boldy or Caufield. Holtz has yet to crack the NHL roster on a respectfully close to playoff contention but still one of the worst teams in the league. Mercer is therefore a certifiable proven NHL player who carries more value and is no longer considered a prospect. Regardless of Holtz's upside. Especially for a teaming looking to make the playoffs next year.
New Jersey by trading for Fiala are making a Win-now move, so by moving a player that <em>might</em> become as good as Fiala in 3+ years is more favorable than moving a important piece off their active roster to do it. They are getting the better player now. That is why Holtz is more plausible over Mercer. Holtz is still a prospect.
As for Hughes. Two reasons.
1) They're not going to trade their young 20 year old 1C's younger brother and risk pissing him off.
2) Hughes is their #1 prospect.
Would you trade Rossi for William Nylander? Same thing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 9, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.
Thread:
Trying to be realistic on Fiala
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>iAce</b></div><div>I appreciate a constructive post here. As a Wild fan, lets touch on a few points. First, we ranked 3rd in prospect pipeline. Meaning a huge amount of B prospects doesn't do anything for us. Second, we are contending. Meaning we are looking for certain things back for players like Dumba/Fiala trades. Lastly, we draft very well thanks to Judd Brackett. Meaning we would want high draft picks. The draft proposals above are way better than most of the fan base. We have the same in the Wild community as well. Most of us are thankful for a guy like Fiala because this org has lacked scoring almost our entire existence.
We have a log jam at forwards so any forwards that are traded need to work on a top 6 line combo. Even with that the Wild have players to fill in that role so it's not really needed at them moment due to Rossi coming up next year and not having a ton of UFA/RFA's. We also have our top 3 defense in place with Brodin, Spurgeon Dumba and potentially Middleton being resigned after the year is over. So a defender would have to be a high end player to add benefit to our roster.
Trades like Foote, late first and a second rounder, does nothing really to intrigue the Wild. Foote won't make this roster unless its the 4th line and a late first has a very low probability of making a pro roster and a second round is the same. So trading Fiala for that proposal really does nothing for us.
Proposals I think the Wild are targeting:
Mercer+3rd for Fiala
Luke Hughes+3rd for Fiala
Boqvist+1st unprotected for Fiala
These trades at least provide a foundation. Boqvist might not crack the roster but if there are injuries we could call him up. A first round pick gets us a prospect that could help us in time. I'd be more interested in no picks and getting back a Dawson Mercer or Luke Hughes because they add a young player that will make this club next year. It also allows us to make changes else where which adds a benefit where we may not need anything else besides that player.
Example: A Mercer trade allows us to pencil him in on the Boldy line with Rossi and thus letting us move Freddy potentially. Or a Luke Hughes trade allows us to move Dumba for a winger we thing can fit into our top 6 role. So getting a pick isn't needed as much because we could move other players for picks most likely.
TLDR: The Boqvist plus the number 5 overall would be the only pick I would entertain because it sets us up with a prospect that we like in our system. I'd rather have a high end talent like Mercer or Hughes for Fiala because of their cap hit but I understand NJD might not want to move these pieces. I do think the Wild could keep Fiala with little to no effort but we would loose the depth needed to contend. I also think this trade will be very difficult as Fiala is probably the top 5 fan favorite of all time for us.</div></div>
FULLSTOP: WE ARE NOT GETTING HUGHES.
If push comes to shove and there's a bidding war <em>maybe</em> we can pry Mercer out of there. But I find it unlikely. Holtz is the most plausible, but he's the piece coming back we for sure aren't getting a top ten pick back ontop of him... more likely NJ's 2nd rounder instead.
If we get the 1st, we're getting a lesser prospect back on top of it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2022 at 11:21 a.m.
Thread:
If we win the lotto
Counter offer: Gaudreau, 2nd round pick, and a 4th round pick for Jesper Bratt
Don't see Fiala signing for that either.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 9, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
Thread:
Next Season
I like Holtz a lot but I almost wonder if we'd prefer your first. This series with the Blues is exposing our center depth and while Rossi looks very promising, he's pretty much it for our center prospects. We have some very talented wingers on the team already with Kaprizov, Zuccarello, and Boldy. That pick could help solve the problem we've had since we became a franchise: lack of a true #1 center.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 14, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
Thread:
Nylander
Here's the problem with trading 7m X 2 Nylander.....or any player with a similar contract. Leafs would want to trade Nylander for cap reasons...meaning little cap returned to the Leafs.
So that limits greatly limits the Leafs trade options. And if you a team like Jersey...yeah they would like Nylander but geez today's market they could sign a good UFA for 7m, and not give up anything in exchange. So I think Nylander's trade value, without taking cap back isn't that great.
Let's imagine the Leafs can only get a second rounder for Nylander, without taking money back. I know Leafs fans say that is ridiculous, but you have to look at as second rounder and 7m in capspace.
So maybe that 7m gets you Campbell and Lybushin resigned for multiple years and a second rounder in the trade. Isn't that a good deal for the Leafs?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 14, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
Thread:
Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lambchopz</b></div><div>To get a very good piece, you’re gonna have to move at least something good lmao. You don’t get elite players through meh pieces</div></div>
yeah i agree with this. this shows the difference between the armchair gm and the real gm. Trades like this (to get out of a rebuild) take risk, including giving up some assets. While I agree t hat the first five players on this list shouldn't be available, if Sharangovich is off the table for a clear upgrade, something is very wrong. Any player who has a ceiling lower than Nylanders should at least be able to be discussed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 14, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
Thread:
Nylander
The Devils probably decline Mercer for Nylander straight up
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.
Thread:
Tkachuk wants out of Calgary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>That's about 3/5 of Tkachuks value</div></div>
mate that's a top 5 pick, one of the top 15 prospects in the world and a serviceable middle six winger.
How is this three fifths of Tkachuk?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread:
Matthew Tkachuk time
I’d think Calgary would want some picks as well
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread:
Matthew Tkachuk time
If only it were that easy!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 26, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
Thread:
Potential Miller trades
Odd how none of your proposals line up with what you quoted the analysts saying
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 6, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
Thread:
All in deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Toby_flenderson</b></div><div>Fitzgerald would be fired within 2 hours if he agreed to that Nashville trade. My goodness.</div></div>
I think two hours is a very generous time estimate.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 22, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.
Thread:
Meier Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Toby_flenderson</b></div><div>Pavel Zacha just had the best season of his career, recording 35 points in 50 games (0.7 PPG) playing the majority of the season at LW.
Timo Meier just had 31 points in 54 games (.57 PPG).
Devils aren't moving Zacha in a deal for Meier because that would kind of be a lateral move. Devils want to add to their young core</div></div>
So Meier's worst season statistically is a **** hair worse than Zacha's best season. I see why this move doesn't work for NJ
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 27, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
Fix the D they said
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div>haha this is is so unrealistic, a third line forward would never get a 1st round pick in a deep draft with the assumption they will be a top 6 scoring forward despite minimal evidence to the contrary</div></div>
I was mostly joking with that deal but then again.. Kappy got 1st++ lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 27, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
Fix the D they said
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Toby_flenderson</b></div><div>Keep dreaming on that Devils deal buddy haha.
Johnsson is worth a 3rd rounder</div></div>
he is worth 2nd, I was mostly joking with that deal as you can clearly see. But there is a rumour that devils want u26 young player with term for one of those picks so..
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2020 at 10:12 p.m.
Thread:
Pietrangelo 8 Yrs 9 AAV- 4th to STL and New Lines
You can't give 8 years to a player that isn't on your roster by the time the TDL passes, 7 years is the max.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2020 at 10:18 p.m.
Thread:
Pietrangelo 8 Yrs 9 AAV- 4th to STL and New Lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07 </b></div><div>You can trade for rights</div></div>
Doesn't matter. Hanifin wasn't eligible for an 8 year deal when he was traded to CGY. Have to be property of that team before the TDL passes for 8 years to be on the table
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