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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 12:45 p.m.
Thread: SUBMIT YOUR PETEY TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Matheson
Roy OR Beck(our top 2 A ranked forwards)
1st in 2025 CGY
2nd in 2024 COL

But we'd take back Garlands capdump if you'd take Ylonen and an additional 2nd over Roy or Beck as on our builds timeline they're kinda pieces that fit
That said if Pettersson coming in i suppose the depth charts landscape will change so it wont really matter in hindsight

Now if thats Enough MTL has options
We can either re-sign him, Hope someones dumb enough offer sheet him lol or Trade his rights in the summer if we cant work it out.
I think he fits and we sign him breaking with our no one makes more then the Captain Mantra that he, Caufield and Dach were all talking about this summer.
But i think if you can get Elias to sign for lets say 9.5m with full NMC the first 3 years of how ever long the term is and it would make sense for all involved.

I think Ideally he signs a 4-5 year deal and this contract will never be hard to move.
But im sure there will still be MTL fans saying so after i post this.
I think to get our first 100pts player in like 40 years? that we'd be more then happy to Welcome Elias to MTL</div></div>

Firstly, that’s not close to enough

Second, Garland is not a cap dump
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 8:58 a.m.
Thread: SUBMIT YOUR PETEY TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlimTJ100</b></div><div>This is like trying to sell ice to an Eskimo

We don’t have the cap space upon trading everything for him.

For arguments sake:
Trocheck
Othmann, may even have to be Perrault
1st
2nd</div></div>

It likely get's blocked by Trochecks NMC.

The problem with NYR is that: 1) both Zib + Trocheck have NMCs, and 2) Chytil's health. If one of them were to waive a NMC, it'd be a different story.

It would essentially go like this for NYR:

Choose 1 of: Zib (if waived), Trocheck (if waived), Chytil (if chytil is picked, Goodrow must be included, upgrade the 2024 2nd to a 1st rounder below and upgrade from choice of 3 to choice of 4)
Choose 1 of: Miller, Lindgren
Choose 2 of: Kakko, Sykora, Berard
Choose 3 of: 2025 1st, 2024 2nd, Dylan Garand, Robertson, Jones (2024 1st may be omitted because apparently Dolan wants to draft at the Sphere)


Schneider could potentially be in the Miller/Lindgren group -- but it likely depends on which center they take AND if they take Kakko.

Perreault is a non-starter for NYR. In a smaller swap sure, but in terms of a package it would be too much for NYR to pay.
Othmann may be the player that pushes the deal through, but he's been off limits (so far) in trades and I'm not sure that changes. It'll again likely depend on the size of the package vancouver wants.

IF the package Vancouver wants seems like too much for NYR, they likely wait and see what happens with arbitration. If it's player elected, Petey could potentially become a UFA if Vancouver does not want to meet the award (unlikely). If it's a 1 year deal, NYR may rather overpay when he becomes a UFA next year than to give up a truck of assets to obtain.

The most realistic package Vancouver should really expect teams to give up is similar to what Florida gave up for Tkachuck (top line replacement player, top 4 defenseman, meh prospect, 1st). I will admit this package was a little light but it was also due to Tkachuk only willing to sign with a few teams. Maybe throw in an extra 2nd (or conditional 1st) / prospect (Jones, Berard, Sykora quality), or even Kakko for good measure.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 6:07 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 26 at 1:59 p.m.
Thread: Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Jack Hughes has been better defensively than Pettersson this year. (Pettersson’s defensive play this year and in general is incredibly overrated, and Jacks is incredibly underrated).

But Pettersson got a narrative around him (people associate killing penalties and winning faceoffs with being good defensively bc defensive play is very difficult to isolate)

And because Jack is small and doesn’t win faceoffs and doesn’t throw #hits, people assume he isn’t good defensively.</div></div>

What? Pettersson has a borderline selke level two way game while producing 100 points, Hughes is average defensively and puts up the same offensive numbers. At worst they’d be a wash in trade value because of Hughes’ contract but there’s a good argument that it would take Hughes + to acquire Petey.