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Forum: NHL SigningsJun. 19, 2019 at 10:33 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Ready for this one....

Over the last 3 seasons:

<em>Kevin Hayes - 223GP / 148Pts / 0.66 PGP</em>
<strong>Dustin Brown - 233GP / 148Pts / 0.64 PGP</strong>

^Dustin Brown at $5.8 is considered a bad contract...wonder what that makes this Hayes deal?</div></div>

I appreciate your choosing Brown as a comp because both players are two-way forwards whose contributions exceed raw point totals. Arguably center is a bit more valuable, but let's shelve that for a more fundamental contrast:

Dustin Brown has 3 years left on his deal and he will turn 35 in November. He will be <strong>37 </strong><em>during </em>the last season of the deal.
Hayes recently turned 27 years old in May. He will be<strong> 33 </strong><em>during</em> the last season of his new deal.
When Dustin Brown signed his deal before the 14-15 season, it was <strong>8.5%</strong> of the salary cap.
Depending upon whether the cap is set to $82 or $83 million for 19-20, Hayes' deal is expected to be between <strong>8.6-8.71%</strong> of the salary cap.

In sum, Hayes' deal is by 1-2 tenths of a percent more expensive than Brown's, but does not extend well into what should probably be retirement years. Brown's deal is significantly worse because of the age/term factor. This isn't to say UFA isn't expensive; it absolutely is. 8.6-8.7% of the cap is nothing to sneeze at. The term could be a year shorter and be more attractive, but if the salary is front loaded, then the contract is probably going to be quite marketable to a cap floor team that many years down the line. We'll get those details later.

(Edit) P.S. In the 3 seasons leading up to that deal, Brown had 207GP / 110Pts / 0.53 PPG
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>luketd</b></div><div>I like the idea, dont know much about Nichu to talk about him. I think Hayes is our best bet at 2C, The only gripe I have with this is the contract lengths. I think Sanhiem will get 3-4 seasons as a bridge deal, and Laughton would get 2-3 seasons as well.</div></div>
Fair enough. They are just what I would push for if I was negotiating. I have no record of success predicting contract outcomes. Fletch being new here makes it even harder.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>I would rather play Frost or anyone over Nuchuskin. The guy can't even make the Stars lineup and they are by no means deep.</div></div>
That may well be the outcome, and that's fine if Frosty is ready to roll. My prediction is they will make a move to give themselves a low commitment option (in term &amp; resources for acquisition) before promoting a prospect into the role. Bear in mind we acquired Hartman via Simmonds in large part b/c Hartman fell out of favor with Lavy (and I armchair-GM predicted that one correctly) and was under-performing his earlier career totals. That is also the case with Nuke and Montgomery. The guy started him on the checking line, so imo Nuke was not put in a position to succeed this year. The depth point, I think it goes the other way. No one is arguing Nuke is a playmaker that can carry a line. I'm arguing he is a power forward complement, but to succeed needs playmaking elsewhere on the line (hence the potential fit with Lindblom &amp; Patrick). Dallas did not have that, at all below their top line, not until Zucc and Hintz hooked up. I'd defer to Dallas fans if they think I am off-base with this.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>flatimir</b></div><div>I like the idea with Nichushkin if you can get him that cheap (probably yes). Only one year is low risk.
Offense looks realy good but on D, depthwise is not much there, so they should sign someone who can play 5/6.</div></div>
Yeah, I agree for the most part. I left D unaddressed because I see the options as all too expensive. My bet is the Flyers are more likely to make a deal at the deadline if they still feel they could use an upgrade and the team otherwise has come together really well. Edit: To add, when Fletch listed 5 of our D positively in the AV press conference, I thought that signaled they had conferred and may be mostly content with the D. Just an inference there, but we'll see. It sounded like a far, far lower priority than 2C.

Edit: Thanks for the feedback, all.