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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 10, 2018 at 11:10 a.m.
Thread: Destruction of NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>burla13. As a Leaf fan, I'm happy with their record too. It sure looks like old time 80s hockey (without the fights). Very entertaining.
Maybe Gauthier, Leivo and Ennis have found their niche. They were outstanding last night in their fourth line role. Kept the Stars in hemmed in their zone consistenly. I'm not so concerned about the Leafs defensive play at all. Sure it can get better, but most teams have problems early in the better. Thought Ozzie looked good last night. If the Dmen aren't good enough, the Leafs do have assets to trade if necessary.</div></div>

Agreed. I think people need to respect the cap more with the new makeup of the team. this PP oldest player is 27, they could theoretically be PP1 for 5-7 years depending on Kadri and Tavares deterioration with age. As much as I would love Parayko, I think Cap space is better so if they filled a roster spot and had 2 future picks in the first round that could come in in 3 years, that is how you have high paid elite talent stay, by having cheap skilled players in the farm. They already have an elite AHL team and now they want to stock their ECHL team. The Leafs can spot fill holes with low slary players, I think there is a reason that Holl and Goat both have 2 year deals, because combined they take up only 1.5 mil which saves cap.

If they trade Nylander for future players and next years cap space, I would be okay with that move. More time for PP1, which is 5/10 in 4 games. That is insane. They NHL is trending with analytics to a deflection and empty net PP, which is why the Leafs score so easily it seems. They had 25% last year and now they have Tavares. Sorry Willy, you are not an 8mil dollar player. I don't even know if he plays on the third line because of defensive liability. If they traded him for Simmons and 2 firsts I would be fine with that.
Marleau-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson/Lindholm-Kadri-Simmons (shutdown/forcheck/draw penalties line)
Ennis-Goat/Lindholm-Brown (Kill 10 mins line, let Matty and John rest)

This team would not only win a playoff series, they would be awful to play and matchup against.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 10, 2018 at 8:59 a.m.
Thread: Destruction of NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Destruction of the NHL? Two overtime wins their three wins. Why does Philly want to pay Willie 8?</div></div>

And now that they have a proper lineup they put 7 on a Dallas team who has given up 1 in 2 games.
Simmons would also bring down the goals against because he and Kadri would be awful to play against meaning Matthews would play against every teams third line while Tavares torched the 2nd line so yes there would be destruction.
I truly dont care in the Leafs give up 4 because they score 2 pp goals almost every game, they are now playing well 5v5.
You can teach defence yo shave away a goal against you cannot teach a pp that have 2 players with 13 goals in 4 games. That is skill which is worth paying.

They are 3-1 now btw so they already have their 6 points in the 5 game segment. If they start 4-1 or 3-1-1 I am pretty happy with that.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 10, 2018 at 8:55 a.m.
Thread: Destruction of NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Of all the players to trade Nylander to Philly for you chose... Simmonds... Why?
Go for a Dman, or something that fills a need.</div></div>

Because people need to stop think about players with their skill value, cap value is just as important and the Leafs respect that more than any. You keep the D cheap so that you can have the most deadly pp in history.
If they get a high priced D man it wont make them that much better than having a mid range forward in Simmons with a role keep mitch and Auston happy.

Also I say Simmon because it seems that the top 6 has about 200 goals of potential especially with the PP Simmons would be a 5v5 nightmare with Kadri. They could chip in some goals but really they tire out line 1 so Auston can pick on like 3.

And the first rounders go into the bank of good markie players getting ready to be better. Bracco and SDA could replace Nylander in 2 years only they make less than a million. Controlling the cap is how you stay good for a really long time.

Again if Nylander wants 6 to 7 that is awesome. But Kap has 4 points in 2 games playing with Matthews Matthews drives play more than Nylander. Nylander is on the 2nd pp whixh plays about 28 seconds. Nylander is defensively irresponsible, the Leafs dont really need him if Kap is on that first line, so sorry we are not playing you like that. He is a first liner on most teams, on these Leafs however he could be a 3rd liner
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 8, 2018 at 1:21 a.m.
Thread: Just move Nylander already your thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>honestly i expect Ritchie to end up in TML and Nylander to end up in ANA
i think it will be picks balancing it out with a conditional pick going to TML (either a 1st or a 2nd that becomes a first if ANA wins a cup )

TML gets a tough sob who 22 and will lead the team in hits while contributing 10-15 goals and 30-40 points .
for a TML team looking to make a playoff run while protecting their stars Ritchie's a great addition .
Rithchie being cheaper works to TML's advantage as they going into contract hell the next few years with all their young stars which is why they not only cant but wont bend to Nylanders demands because right now his contract will set the tone for stars a lot bigger then him on the team when they re-sign .

TML gets a cheaper 22 year old prospect with a high level pick because as good as he is Legit Centers like Nylander arent cheap at 20 years of age with back to back 60 pt seasons and 50% faceoff win rate .</div></div>

Are you Ritchie's agent. Why would they trade a modern nhl winger for a big slow player. Dubas would never trade for Ritchie. The fact he could get 15 goals is already a no. Nylander scored 20 with an awful shooting percentage. The only forward worth trading Willy for is someone equally dynamic like Panarin
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsOct. 1, 2018 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread: If Nylander Wants 8 He Can Play Elsewhere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div></div></div>

I think you are completely correct, which if there is one logical trade in my mind it is Panarin (obviously with an extension) I think Panarin is a better player with the same talents only even more elite vision. Columbus is at a crisis where 2 of their best players have said they are leaving. I think they would pay willy 8 or 8.5 and he could be their franchise player along with Seth Jones and Werenski, hopefully, youth and skill could save the franchise. I think for the Leafs Panarin would make the most logical sense because he is better than Marner, at least I think so, if Marner is better than the Leafs have 3 top 10 players already. Let's say Panarin signs 7 x 9.5, much like Tavares getting 11 and kind of capping RFA Matthews, if Panarin played with Matthews and had more points than Marner, that would knock down his cap hit.

Ideally, I want Matthews-Nylander Tavares-Marner for the next 10 years where the Leafs can win Cups and all of their jerseys can hang in the SBA together. But if Nylander is deadset on 8, and willing to start losing paycheques this weeks, the Leafs should flex their muscles and make him come to them. I think they can win without him, so if he is there this team will be very good.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSep. 30, 2018 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread: If Nylander Wants 8 He Can Play Elsewhere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I voted No. Not that the Leafs should pay him 8m. It sets a terrible precedent for the team, if they trade a RFA, just because he might make money more money elsewhere. What, next year Matthews and Marner refuse to sign because they know they can get a few more dollars elsewhere and knowing that it Leaf policy to trade unsigned RFAs.
RFAs have virtually no rights being able to go from various teams bargaining for the best money. That's reserved for UFAs.</div></div>

I am not trading Willy because I want to, I'm trading him because he will not be the reason this team has cap issues. He is, in terms of importance 7th. The 3 centers, Reilly, Freddy, Mitch and then him. I think Willy could have 80 points in a few years, I do not think he will have 100. I think Mitch with have a 100 point season playing with Tavares so if he was 9.5 (Kucherov) of 10.5 (Kane) and he proved to be worth that he should be paid. Matthew's is 11 and that's easy. But you are not losing mitch because you played Willy. The Leafs are a matchup Nightmare with 3 centers who all score from the dangerous areas. The Lwafs could win the cup and they could do it without Nylander
Marleau-Matthews
Tavares-Marmer
Kadri-Brown (Shutdown with hopefully Johnsson.) When the lwafs are on home side Babas will be laughing at opponents as Matthew's comes.out against 3rd lines and Marleau is putting the puck in empty nets, it's not fair.

So if Willy wants 6.5 great. If he was 7.25 for 8 years, awesome. If he was 5 for 2 years, great that means a little extra cap space in the 2020 of season. But if he says that he is Drisaitl, I say no or at least joe here. You are the 8th ot 9th center on this team, you could be 1C a lot of other places if you want 8 5 we will find you a hole, and get equal value back to win the Stanley cup.
Panarin works.
If Seth Jones wasn't hurt I would make that tree then pair nylander and panarin and hopefully panarin chnace his mind.

I would like to know other players you would trade nylander for. And it's not a bunch of picks and prospects the Lefs are sending away a star, they need one in return.

I also would call Edmonton. They need to make McDavid happen. Klefbom + Yamomoto for Nylander
I think I make that trade as both teams. Then McDavid can have at least 1 good winger.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSep. 23, 2018 at 3:33 p.m.
Thread: If Nylander Wants 8 He Can Play Elsewhere
I LOVE WILLIAM NYLANDER. I do not work for TSN I think he has great value on this team and I think he is very talented. However in terms of importance he is at the very most 6th. The centers Reilly and Freddy are ll more important than Willy. It is preseason but we can see that a buyout Tyler Ennie can set up AM so if Willy really thinks he deserves that much money while having 0 leverage I think he will not get signed or he will be dealt. My proposal is the CBJ there could be an exchange of talented wingers Panarin for Nylander. In Columbus Willy could play center and here Panarin could bring Matthews to a whole other level.

Patty Kane had his best years, his only 40 goal season with Panarin, Matthews would have 50 no problem.
Panarin signs a 6 year 8.5-9 million dollar deal, he joins a dynasty which he was jilted from in chicago, his endowments would be through the roof and lastly he would cap what Marmer makes. Similar to Tavares 11, if Panarin got 8.5 or 9, he is simply better than Marner this would knock down Marners number and would make next off-season easier. This is only done with an extension but a top 6 of
Marleau-Matthews-Panarin
Hyman-Tavares-Marner

This is unfairly talented, taht is 200 goals in the top 6, that is a Stanley cup champion.

I do not want to trade Willy, but if he is unreasonable and Panarin wanted to play here I think this helps the Leafs, and the Blue Jackets.

What do you think?
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/868447">https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/868447</a>
This is just a reference of what next years contracts would look like.
Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 22, 2018 at 4:39 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSep. 22, 2018 at 10:50 a.m.
Thread: Leafs Prospect Talk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Daryl</b></div><div><a href="/users/Rodzikhockey93" target="_blank">@Rodzikhockey93</a>

I am also a big fan of Durzi and was pretty happy when we selected him this past draft, I think he has a lots of potential but will take a few years to develop. However, I'm not sure if Liljegren is ready for a top four role starting this season as I personally think it would be best for his development to stay with the Marlies one more year, Babcock has also proven to be a fan of "over-cooking" prospects in the minors so that they make immediate impact when they are called up (eg: Marner and Nylander). This upcoming season I expect Johnsson to be a regular and most likely Grundstrom as well if he can out play guys like Leivo and Ennis at Training Camp. On defense I am expecting the usually lineup of Rielly/Gardiner/Dermott and Hainsey/Zaitsev/Carrick to play out the season with the occasional sighting of guys like Rosen, Borgman, Ozhiganov, and Liljegren. The big change should come next season as I highly doubt Dubas is the kind of GM to resign an aging Hainsey and a defensively challenged Garinder (who would probably ask for to much anyway), meaning I could see Liljegren and Zaitsev with either one of Ozhiganov or Carrick making up the right side, while on the left Rielly will hold the top spot giving Dermott Gardiner's old spot and then calling up either Rosen or Borgman for the entire season.</div></div>

I think they keep Jake essentially the same way they kept JVR for 1 growing year, let Timmy win a second Calder as a top Dman and then next year he will have played 2 full years in the system against top competition. Then he can start on the third pair like dermott woth sheltered minutes learning the NHL. I think by January 2020 our top 4 will be

Reilly-Zaitsev
Dermott-Liljegren.
We will still have the best center and right wing depth, suddenly our defence can skate and pass.

That team especially when Sandin joins could be one of the best ever. Everyone can pass skate score, "play the right way". They will dominate this year with Matthew's and Tavares. As Auston enters his prime the denfese will do the same and this could become the greatest franchise in NHL history.

I have talked at great length but they do not need to trade first rounders, they have all the news so they will keep drafting 31st, trading down getting players.

The Leafs could win, in 2 years the ECHL, AHL, and NHL championships all at once. Europeans will want to play here, FAs will sign short sheap deal to win here (see Boogie Cousins) and they will just keep growing. Dubas could have a 25-30 year run of drafting and developing and the prospects will just keep coming!
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 6:31 p.m.
Thread: Acquire Nylander Pay Him to Be the Guy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>I'm so glad people are starting to come around to the fact the management has all the leverage now. This core of players will be signing non anchor deals until they consistently prove themselves or win something. Just like most teams who are successful</div></div>

Tavares did so many things, first and foremost gave them the most depth at the most important position, but 2 it makes the team so deep that a player like Nylander loses leverage. Auston, John, Naz, Morgan and Freddy are all more important than you. I am not paying my 6th or 7th most important player that much. Literally if Ennis happened to play with Auston all year, Tyler probably has 25 and 25. So willy you only had 61 points, take a little bridge or a long term deal that helps this team. Otherwise sit and watch Mike talk about how people are passing you because you aren't here. All the pressure is on him.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 5:09 p.m.
Thread: Acquire Nylander Pay Him to Be the Guy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Let's look at recent history. Two seasons ago, Trouba "held out" after his ELC, and then signed a his first RFA deal....2 years at 2.8m each. Then this year he went to arbitration, and after this year he still has one year of a RFA till he's a UFA. That's a total of four RFA years after his three years of his ELC.
Actually Nylander is a different position than Trouba. Trouba had 3 years of plus 40 games of his ELC, which makes him eligible to be a UFA after another four years of RFA.
Nylander has had only 2 season of 40 plus games as a ELC so he has 5 years of RFA seasons before being a UFA.</div></div>

Sorry Willy you have no leverage. Oh and your team is good without you. That's tough, take what you can get man, Ennis might take your endorsement deal too!
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread: Acquire Nylander Pay Him to Be the Guy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Sorry, I don't know why you think 22 or 23 year NHL can suddenly be UFAs. Actually drafted Europeans who remain in Europe and don't sign NHL contracts have their NHL right held by drafting team often till the age of 27.
The key is whether the the team has given the player a qualifying offer.
Nylander worth 8m? It always a question. Certainly no other team has put in an offer sheet. 8m would make him about the 4th highest paid RWer. Doubt if any team thinks he's worth that much</div></div>

And if Edmonton lets anyway willing to give 4 first rounders taht is potentially 2 top 6 forward and 2 top4 dmentaht you could add over the next 8 years to a lineup that is stacked.
People seem to forget in 8 years Matthews is 29. Like the Leafs could win the cup this year. In 8years Auston and Mitch will be better. In 2022 when Tavares is 31 and Auston is 25 they are going to be deadly. I would take 4 first rounders to keep making the depth better and better.

In Dubas we trust.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 12:35 p.m.
Thread: Nylander for Panarin -Tavares sets Matthews Bar Panarin Sets Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>For the most part I agree. The only place I deviate is that a lot of these young contracts (these days) aren't given out for what you've actually done...It's what you're projected to do. I personally have a problem with this, but it's just the way things are I guess. Did Eichel deserve $10M for completed accomplishments??? HECK NO...not even close! I'm not saying he's a bad player at all, but it's a projection for sure. Why this comes into play (And Specifically why I chose Eichel as the comp)...Big Willy, My Man Mitch, AND Especially Matthews are gonna get PAID. Matthews contract STARTs...BASE...$10.5M because of Eichel and I doubt Tavares is the limit you're counting on. Back to Nylander though I could see a trade AND I do agree that Panarin deserves a higher contract (than either Willy or Mitch) for sure. Maybe, the target should be Seth Jones though??? I don't see Panarin staying in TOR because they're going to be cap tight very soon and "That's business baby"</div></div>

I thought about Jones as well but 1 I think that is a no from Columbus but 2 I think the Leafs plan is cheap young pick movies. Now if you can add a top 5 like Jones I am all for it but I would rather our top 9 be absolutely terrifying and then let the left side help the right side out. Polak being gone make ethe Leafs better I think Holl can play in the NHL if you have Holl Zaitsev and Liliegren then you have an OK right side that will make less than 7 mil total for 2 to 3 years. Then as the cap goes up you can pay Dman but I would take Panarin because if Panarin plays with Matthews I seriously believe Matthews could go 50 goals and 50 assists.

The Tavares could go 40 and 50
Marleau 30 Matthews 50 Panarin 35-40
Hyman 20 Tavares 40 Mitch 30

200 goals in the top 6. That is something special.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 10:30 a.m.
Thread: Acquire Nylander Pay Him to Be the Guy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>He doesn't deserve 8 mil are you whacked out of your mind? He had 20 goals last year and looked disinterested for long periods, and the biggest eye sore was when Matthews was injured for around 20 games he only put up around .5 ppg. He is a 6 mil player right now, same with Ehlers and Larkin his best comparables. Its a weird time in the hockey world when other teams fans are overvaluing the leafs players and not the other way around</div></div>

Isnt is great. And if Ennis keeps scoring with Matthews Willy loses value because hilariously if they went into the season without him, the Leafs have so many good players it really wouldn't be noticed.
I'm not paying a guy 8 mil to get 25 seconds on the 2nd pp.