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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 1, 2022 at 3:57 a.m.
Thread: Holland goes all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Extending Chychrun could be a challenge because all of those guys are signed beyond 3 years. Draisaitl and Holloway (if he makes the team) will need a raise at the same time as Chychrun but before that McLeod, JP, Yamamoto, and Skinner would which might be why Broberg is off the table as well. The cap doesn't go up much next year, and the Oilers will lose a lot of the cap relief that they have this year, which is why I suggested maybe JP and McLeod and it's also probably the reason why Holland isn't willing to bring in Chychrun for Broberg+a 1st+Barrie for example since next year they would still need to make a sacrifice.

Bourgault and Samo are less valuable than JP and McLeod to the Oilers now imo but I wonder if either team would be willing to give/take either package. Perhaps, the best package for both teams would be something like JP+Samo(or another prospect) +1st+Barrie. The Oilers are probably among the teams who aren't super high on Chychrun though.</div></div>

My point was that extending Chych is a non issue because he has 3 seasons left on his deal.... if the Oilers went all in this yr and traded for him and another piece and didnt win a cup in the next 3 yrs they'd most likely be looking at remaking alot of the team by then anyways.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 30, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.
Thread: Holland goes all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>I don't think Kane makes much sense for the Oilers, but Chychrun isn't a bad idea, but Broberg's and Holloway's ELCs are too valuable for the Oilers, who probably won't be able to extend Chychrun. I wonder though if both sides would be willing to have both McLeod and Puljujarvi+a B prospect instead of a premium prospect+typical cap dump or both Bourgault+Samorukov/Niemelainen.</div></div>

Extending Chychrun is a non issue as he is signed for the next 3 seasons. And i'd argue that McLeod &amp; even Puljujarvi are more valuable(to the Oilers) right now than Bourgault &amp; Samo because they are roster players NOW, not in another season or 2.
As for Niemo i think he could be the most valuable of the players you mentioned because he is arguably ready to play &amp; has a much lower ceiling than Broberg or Bourgault. He's likely a career 3rd pairing dman who brings some physicality. He'll never cost more than say $2.5mill per yr but still serves a crucial spot on the roster. The entire roster cannot be made up top 15 picks who more or less all play the same style of game and who all eventually want to be paid $6mill+.
With McD, Drai, Hyman, RNH, Kane, Nurse, &amp; Bouchard the roster pretty much has its top 2 lines in place. Arguably they need one more top 6 winger(preferably RW) &amp; one more top end Dman, &amp; they need them now, not in 2 or 3 seasons.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 30, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread: Holland goes all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>If you've been paying attention you'd know that Holland never goes "all-in", ie. sacrificing the future for the present. He has never traded a 1st for a rental, for example. Neither has the Edmonton Oilers organization in their 40+ year NHL history traded a 1st for a rental. Holland is a builder whose mandate is to create a team that will contend for the entire careers of McDavid and Draisaitl, he's not going to start sending out high end picks and prospects for a short term boost.

He's already had this conversation with Armstrong, and he refused to include Broberg or Holloway in any offer.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Paying attention??? This is CapFriendly where getting people to read and comprehend the title of the ACGM is a big enough task.</div></div>

Speaking of "paying attention" I believe I clearly stated in the explanation: "I think its highly unlikely Holland trades for Chychrun"
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 19, 2022 at 6:48 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
Thread: Who is getting traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Man, EDM is in tough here because the logical moves (Barrie/ Foegele/ Puljujarvi) all require less cap coming back to make it work, which in turn makes the value switch from assets to cap space and so little teams have cap space right now.

All 3 guys are worth more than they'd probably get from now till the start of the season but other teams have very little need to pay any kind of asset for them.

If I'm Holland I keep all 3 and hope other team get significant injuries to start the year and then get desperate and ask about these guys. Otherwise, you'll need to move those guys at a major loss.</div></div>

Holding off on trading anyone is definitely an intriguing option.... but man starting the season with a 20 man roster makes me nervous....
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
Thread: Who is getting traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FromNunavut</b></div><div>Ryan Rishaug has stated that the Oilers are currently exploring all options for Puljujarvi as they see him on the third line and he isn't really happy about that, frees up cap space and they don't have to add a draft pick like they would with Foegele or Barrie.</div></div>

Yes I am well aware what the media is saying... but they all said that earlier this summer as well. Not to mention that trading PJ creates a open spot on RW that they dont really have a replacement for. Moving Foegele might cost them a mid round pick but at least doesnt create a hole in the roster with them having plenty of depth when it comes to Left shot guys.... and not to mention, if they are suppose to be a cup contending team for the next 3-5 yrs who gives a f***k about giving up mid round picks.