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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 19 at 10:25 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 19 at 8:39 p.m.
Thread: Building from my blueprint
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>Wahlstrom is a bust. I wouldn’t call getting a 4th or a 5th “positive value” when the guy was taken in the 1st round.. that’s negative.

Palmieri isn’t worth a $5M cap hit at his age. Most teams are cap strapped and if you want them to add a $5M 3rd liner, you’re adding something to that deal or you can keep him.

Pageau is again a $5M cap hit 3rd line player and at best a 40 point player, more likely a 30 point player now and he’ll only decline. There’s not much positive value to that when you can get guys at half his price that produce more - you even mentioned salary retention and if you have to retain on a guy, that means he’s not worth his contract so he’s negative value.

Cizikas is a 4th liner who will be out of the league in a couple years. Seattle only offered him the money because they needed help getting to the salary floor at the time. Doesn’t mean they thought he was worth it at all. You’d be lucky to get future considerations for him.

There’s no positive value in any of those players in a cap world.</div></div>

Wahlstrom is "positive value" in the sense that you are not paying to offload him. Just because he was a 1st rounder 6 years ago doesn't mean you're taking a loss by not trading him for a 1st+ in 2024.

Saying Palmieri isn't worth a $5M AAV at his age is just showing ignorance of the market. He's scored at just under a 50 point pace since the beginning of last season (31-34-65 in 109 GP), and is signed at that $5M cap hit through next year, his age-34 season. Jason Zucker signed a $5.3M AAV last summer - a year younger than Palmieri, but coming off a 48 point season. Before last season, Reilly Smith signed a contract that took him through his age-33 season at the exact same AAV after an almost identical 2 season runup to UFA (30-33-63 in 109 GP.) JT Compher just signed at $5.1M AAV through his age-33 season after a career-high 52 point season last year. I could go on, but I think you get the point - middle-6 forwards that can score at a 50 point pace have an open market value in the $5M range.

Won't push back too much on Pageau - I think he's positive value if you retain him down to $2.5M but he's not a $5M player currently.

I don't disagree that Casey will be out of the league in a few years, if only because he's 33 now and will be 36 by the time his current deal ends and I don't see someone that plays his style of game going that much further into his late-30s. But he's still doing exactly what he was signed to: score 25ish points per year, take the hardest defensive assignments, and be the lead center on the PK.
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