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Forum: NHL TradesApr. 10, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread: (BUF/FLA) - Montour for 2021 3rd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Oh you mean the Carlyle 2018-19 Ducks that couldn't score? And then he was sent to the aimless Sabres? I highly doubt that Niedermayer himself would have survived going from a sinking team to a drowning one.

McCabe's been good exclusively this year, and even then it's a 13 game sample size. Every other season he's been "okay", which kinda describes Jokiharju and Miller too. Dahlin is obviously much more skilled, but his numbers show he's being sheltered. I think we can concede that Ristolainen has never been a good defender. At some point we need to concede that the modern Sabres are a literal black hole in terms of chances against and take some of these stats with a salt lick. Montour's base underlying metrics don't vary wildly from the rest of the Sabres. His 48.48% CF is 5th among the 8 Sabres to play over 1000min since 2018, and he trails Jokiharju and Miller by less than 1%. Montour has the highest expected GF% of all Sabres defencemen with 1000min played since 2018. There isn't a single good defender on this team, and Montour's about average from the bunch. The transformation in Florida is going to be night-and-day: Sabres fans are going to be left - again - wondering why nobody can perform worth a damn for their club but excel elsewheres.

To use an anecdote, were Jeff Petry and Devan Dubnyk always bad players or were they just stuck on a horrible Oilers squad? Coaching, usage, and overall team strength are obviously much more important factors than a few users in this thread are letting on to.</div></div>

&gt; Oh you mean the Carlyle 2018-19 Ducks that couldn't score? And then he was sent to the aimless Sabres? I highly doubt that Niedermayer himself would have survived going from a sinking team to a drowning one.

You said his bad numbers were due to the "Buffalo effect." Is it the "Anaheim effect" too now? The guy has played 281 games under different coaches and teams. Sometimes players just aren't good.

&gt; McCabe's been good exclusively this year, and even then it's a 13 game sample size.

McCabe hasn't just been exclusively good this year. He was good last year and solid the year before too.

&gt; Montour's base underlying metrics don't vary wildly from the rest of the Sabres.

Yea they're pretty similar to Bogosian &amp; Risto who are also black holes. Risto at least has value on the PP though. Montour doesn't offer you anything on special teams.

&gt; The transformation in Florida is going to be night-and-day: Sabres fans are going to be left - again - wondering why nobody can perform worth a damn for their club but excel elsewheres.

This is said about like every player that leaves Buffalo. They're just gonna magically get better on a different team. Most of these players are just bad. Bogosian was still bad when he left. Vesey was still bad when he left. They didn't transform on better teams.

&gt; To use an anecdote, were Jeff Petry and Devan Dubnyk always bad players or were they just stuck on a horrible Oilers squad? Coaching, usage, and overall team strength are obviously much more important factors than a few users in this thread are letting on to.

He's been with multiple coaches &amp; teams. He's been bad on all of them.
Forum: NHL TradesApr. 10, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread: (COL/SJS) - Pateryn and 5th for Dubnyk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Not sure why Colorado would have much interest in Dubnyk, he's been awful for the past 2 years</div></div>

I don’t disagree that he’s not amazing but Dubnyks stats aren’t the story on how good he was for the Sharks. He was very good when we were garbage. With Jones playing very well and the team playing well now it makes it look like Dubnyk sucked but he didn’t.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kaljakori</b></div><div>I really don't get this for the Sharks? Are they still under some delusion that they're competitive? Because they sure as hell aren't and should get prospects at this point, or, for Dubnyk, a reclamation project.</div></div>


Jaros hasn’t don’t very well and Vlasic sucks. The move helps the team and doesn’t really bring a downside and allows Korenar to get a NHL job. It’s very clean business nothing special tho. And Merkley isn’t ready for NHL time. So there is no reason why Pateryn doesn’t help
Forum: NHL TradesApr. 9, 2021 at 8:26 p.m.
Thread: (CBJ/TOR) - Nash for 2022 conditional 7th round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>This is going to be a bit unpopular because the Leafs fanbase is probably bigger than the Jackets fanbase, but here it goes ...



Riley Nash just recently suffered a possibly season-ending injury.

He will either be a minimal contributor on the 4th line or a healthy scratch in the playoffs, assuming he's even healthy by then.



His cap hit and salary at 2.75 million is large enough to be considered a cap dump.

Columbus gets all that money off the books, dumps it on Leafs nation and get a draft pick out of it.

To me, that's a win.


I voted for Columbus.

Like if you did too!</div></div>

All this tells me is that you don't understand the CBA.

The Leafs gained cap space at the deadline.

Columbus saved money but not cap space.
Forum: NHL TradesApr. 9, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
Thread: (CBJ/TOR) - Nash for 2022 conditional 7th round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>This is going to be a bit unpopular because the Leafs fanbase is probably bigger than the Jackets fanbase, but here it goes ...



Riley Nash just recently suffered a possibly season-ending injury.

He will either be a minimal contributor on the 4th line or a healthy scratch in the playoffs, assuming he's even healthy by then.



His cap hit and salary at 2.75 million is large enough to be considered a cap dump.

Columbus gets all that money off the books, dumps it on Leafs nation and get a draft pick out of it.

To me, that's a win.


I voted for Columbus.

Like if you did too!</div></div>

It’s nice they got a pick for a guy that was out for the regular season, but Toronto gets cap space, a bottom 6 forward, and only pays a conditional 7th.