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kaljakori

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Forum: NHL TradesMon at 7:16 am
Thread: Confirmed: (ANA/BUF) - Montour for Guhle and 2019 1st round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rebecca</b></div><div>Brandon Montour is, by most accounts, easily among the Top 40 RHD in the NHL today (possibly in the Top 30). A very strong 2nd pair but with a legitimate case to be a 1st pairing defender. Combined with the crop of other young D-Men that have arrived/taken strides this season (Dahlin, Pilut, Ristolainen, McCabe), adding Montour whist not subtracting anyone off their current roster immediately raises the Buffalo blue-line from slightly below-average to easily among the Top 5-10 in the NHL (with a trajectory that will only make them better in the next 2-3y).

As others have iterated, Guhle was buried in the depth chars on the LHD side, and so really while an “asset” in the abstract, held little to no intrinsic value for Buffalo as an organization beyond what he could recoup. And wow, does he fetch a big fish.

The 1st round pick is a wild-card. If Buffalo has another surge and makes the playoffs then Anaheim is likely looming at around 18th give or take, possibly later if Buffalo upsets the top seed. But - if Buffalo misses the playoffs (and by most prognostications that’s at least an 80% probability), then we’re looking at a lottery pick, albeit one with very long odds. If Buffalo misses the playoffs and “wins” the lottery (moving up to the top 2/3) then Anaheim wins. But in the other 96% of scenarios I find it hard to fathom a borderline LHD and a mid-round 1st providing more value than a young RHD in the Top 30/40 of the NHL.

There’s the 80% possibility that Buffalo</div></div>

That aged well.
Forum: NHL TradesMon at 6:28 am
Forum: NHL TradesApr 10 at 2:50
Thread: (BUF/FLA) - Montour for 2021 3rd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>That entire Ducks team in 2018-19 was a dumpster fire that couldn't score. Carlyle ran that team into the ground: the only reason they didn't finish dead last that year was exclusively due to goaltending. You really wanna hammer home the idea that you're incapable of recognizing the context of the teams in question, don't you?</div></div>

Weird that you keep bringing that year up, since he was by far the worst of their 3 good top-4 dmen that year. By that I mean, Manson has always been average at best and gets big minutes only because he's big and physical. Anyway, Montour was by far the worst of the group of Lindholm, Fowler and Montour in most metrics. Don't get me wrong, the two weren't great, they were actually quite bad, but Montour was even worse.
Forum: NHL TradesApr 10 at 2:39
Thread: (BUF/FLA) - Montour for 2021 3rd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>

To use an anecdote, were Jeff Petry and Devan Dubnyk always bad players or were they just stuck on a horrible Oilers squad? Coaching, usage, and overall team strength are obviously much more important factors than a few users in this thread are letting on to.</div></div>

Devan Dubnyk's sv% with the Oilers:
88,9%(as a rookie)
91,6%
91,4%
92,0%
89,4%

And then he was traded for Matt Hendricks for some reason. He had one down year after his rookie campaign. He struggled with the Preds in the 2 games he played and bounced back to a 91,6% with the Yotes and going lights out with the Wild, being starting caliber until 2019.

Not really even a comparison. We're talking about a player who had a huge slump once in his career vs. one who has consistently shown he's bad. Also those Oilers, Yotes and Wild teams were never worldbeaters. Sure, they weren't as bad as the current Sabres, but it's not like Dubnyk's team made his work easy.