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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
Thread: Retool and Tank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>I wouldn't do the NJD trade if I were the Habs. All the others I like though!

I think people are getting too caught up in the hype of this draft. Everyone has pretty much agreed this is one of the weaker draft classes. Not that there aren't star payers to be had this year, but consensus all the same it's weaker compared to other years.
If any of the current projected top 3 (Wright, Cooley, Slafkovsky) were in the 2021 draft, or even in next years 2023 draft, how would they rank from their peers with only a 1 year age gap? I don't think any of this years top 3 would crack the top 3 of all three years (maybe Wright, but again, very debatable). From a forward position there's Beniers and MacTavish last year, Bedard and Michkov next year.
I'm willing to bet if you asked American scouts who'd they'd select between Beniers or Cooley. All would pick Beniers without hesitation.


The point I'm trying to make is.... don't buy what you deem the value of a "2nd overall pick" is, but the value of the player you'd select in that position. If we all agree Wright will go 1st overall. Is Slafkovsky or Cooley really worth x2 first round picks, what will probably be a top end 2nd round pick, Guhle former 1st rd pick who looks more like a sure bet every day and Farrell possible gem prospect? (Not counting Drouin... doesn't add much trade value anyways....) I don't see it.</div></div>

I don't disagree. Mainly was trying to thwart NJD. The generic under value anything Habs here is fun to squash sometimes.

Thanks for the reply.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
Thread: Retool and Tank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>martm2k</b></div><div>Until they make the NHL and produce, Guhle and Farrell are also gambles.
What if Guhle tops as a 5th dman and Farrell never makes the team?
Not saying this is what is going to happen but you never know with prospects.
You have the opportunity to get the 2nd overall pick for a mid/late 1st round prospect + a 4th round prospect, you think about it.

Remember when Reway was producing in the Q and when he dominated the U20 in Mtl at an 18yo?
Some people were calling him a sure thing and a steal as a 4th round pick.

Remember when some called Rivet, Souray and I can't even remember who was the other one the next "big 3", comparing them to Savard, Robinson and Lapointe?

Guhle and Farrell sure look good now but, until they do it in the NHL, they are still gambles.</div></div>

Exactly. All trades are essentially gambles. And, Slafkovsky could bust. Who knows.

Thanks for the great post.