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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 13, 2018 at 8:19 p.m.
Thread: Massive upgrades to forward depth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>No the picks are meaningless. Cap space is more important...then get you player you really want. How about the Flames taking Ericsson and the Canucks throw in 4th and 5th round pick? Of course not from the Flames.</div></div>

Cap Space is only meaningful if you are going to use it. Does Vancouver think they can buy a contender/playoff team through UFA? If so then your right it does not make sense to take on bad contracts for picks. But if they are thinking long term and will not use it why would you not try and get assests that could make your team better down the road? I know if the Flames were in the Canucks position I would take on many bad contracts and pile up the picks and prospects and draft top 5 in the next 2-3 seasons.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 13, 2018 at 6:12 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2018 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread: Redo Overhaul
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vanderm</b></div><div>Kylington in Top 4?!

Large overpay to BUF for Reinhart.

Large overpay to MTL for Gallagher.

Large overpay from DET for Brodie.

No 1st round pick in 2020 = I think Treliving is learning to try to keep these around.</div></div>

Reinhart is proving to be a great player, Bennet looks like a bust. Both are young and would take alot to sway them to trade him.

Gallagher is a 30 goal player on a team desperate for goals. Again would take a kings ransom to get them to consider trading him.

Brodie is a 40+ point defenceman that can play top 2 minutes in all situations. I think the pay is too small on most teams but your right Detroit might be a lottery pick..... He would get that on a contending team where the pick will be a low 1st round.

Kylington in the top 4 is a stretch, I know..... Not much of a choice with limited cap space.

No pick in 2020 sucks but this team if they could pull it off should not only be in the playoffs, would contend.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2018 at 2:55 p.m.
Thread: Overhaul
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Caps' only blue chip prospect in the AHL is a left handed defenseman, and they currently have five of them in the NHL. Trading two more for Grubauer seems like good value, but on Washington's side they end up with like ten guys for three spots. Are Kylington and Andersson roughly interchangeable?



I think Grubauer for Brodie is actually pretty fair. No one seems too shocked by Grubauer for Hanifin trades, and Brodie is more experienced, but with fewer points. Is Rittich going to do anything special in South Carolina?

If Vancouver passes on that salary dump, the Caps might consider a mutual dump with Orpik coming back to temporarily fill Brodie's minutes until Kylington moves up, and Brouwer returning to the place he played his best years. And if you throw in Gawdin, you get something back for him.

Other Grubauer to flames trades I've read on here, to get an idea of where other hockey fans are valuing him (and it's kind of all over the place because, you're right, he's brilliant but inexperienced... but he trained with Dave Prior for three years, so I'm confident he's ready to play goalie):

RagsandBluesFan posted Ferland and Lazar for Grubauer. People shrugged on both sides.
I've suggested Andersson, Bennett, and Gawdin, and been shot down roundly by other Caps fans (even though I think depth at center and right D are areas the Caps should improve... obiously I get their point that if a Hanifin or a Brodie is available, then pushing Orpik from the top four down the depth chart, and maybe being able to trade him, can help make the Caps a bit faster, if a little less tough.</div></div>

Also, remember what Washinton paid for a couple months of Shattenkirk........ And lost him..... Brodie has 2 years left at a very reasonable rate.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2018 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread: Overhaul
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Caps' only blue chip prospect in the AHL is a left handed defenseman, and they currently have five of them in the NHL. Trading two more for Grubauer seems like good value, but on Washington's side they end up with like ten guys for three spots. Are Kylington and Andersson roughly interchangeable?



I think Grubauer for Brodie is actually pretty fair. No one seems too shocked by Grubauer for Hanifin trades, and Brodie is more experienced, but with fewer points. Is Rittich going to do anything special in South Carolina?

If Vancouver passes on that salary dump, the Caps might consider a mutual dump with Orpik coming back to temporarily fill Brodie's minutes until Kylington moves up, and Brouwer returning to the place he played his best years. And if you throw in Gawdin, you get something back for him.

Other Grubauer to flames trades I've read on here, to get an idea of where other hockey fans are valuing him (and it's kind of all over the place because, you're right, he's brilliant but inexperienced... but he trained with Dave Prior for three years, so I'm confident he's ready to play goalie):

RagsandBluesFan posted Ferland and Lazar for Grubauer. People shrugged on both sides.
I've suggested Andersson, Bennett, and Gawdin, and been shot down roundly by other Caps fans (even though I think depth at center and right D are areas the Caps should improve... obiously I get their point that if a Hanifin or a Brodie is available, then pushing Orpik from the top four down the depth chart, and maybe being able to trade him, can help make the Caps a bit faster, if a little less tough.</div></div>

The thing with Brodie is that his natural position is a left handed shot right side defenceman. Since Calgary likes the stupid model of left shot left side right shot right side he has struggled playing his off position. For Washington who may lose Carlson to free agency this makes a great fit even if they do resign Carlson. Brodie can play top minutes in all situations but I feel he just does not work here due to the fact they are actaully playing on the wrong side. I really think that Brodie with worth a 1st, top prospect and 2nd or lower prospect. So essentiall trying to trade Brodie along with a top prospect and a ok backup for Grubauer and a 1st is not out of the question as at the end of the day you are getting a top 2 defenceman straight up for a first and then getting a top prospect and backup goalie for your backup that you can't really afford. I think its a win win for both teams.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2018 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread: Overhaul
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>t4tree</b></div><div>Except that Bennett has been in the Nhl for 3 years and Pulju has been in the NHL for one year. Oilers wouldn't accept that trade without another first, and Andersson.
Canucks accept.
Grubauer will want more money.
I think you'll need to add more to the Grubauer trade, as I'm sure other teams will offer much more for Grubauer and not ask for a 1st aswell.</div></div>

Yeah I understand on the Pulujarvi trade. But even playing with McDavid, Pulu did not do much.... Bennett on the 3rd line has not been great but he has put up better numbers in his first and second full season so I still don't think its that far off. Grubauer trade is essentially a 1st for Brodie which he is worth more than that and Kylington (great prospect) and Rittich (meh) for Grubs rights. He is unproven as a starter and that scares me so I think 2.75/year is reasonable for a backup with potential. Plus without that 1st I don't think there is a way to get Gallagher..... Unless Flames use Fox which is not out of the question at this point but I really hope Fox eventually signs with the Flames.