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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread: The shake up that can make sense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>You may have no choice but I don't see TO being at all a good trading partner. Nylander will sign with the leafs or test the open market. Marner won't resign there either. So why would Calgary trade for one of them only to see them leave as well. If you have to trade Lindholm and Hanafin and Toffoli it will be either at the deadline for futures or for younger players with upside.</div></div>

Maybe I don’t have the right read in what Calgary would want to do but what I would consider their core is a bit older so are they going for a rebuild with those guys on the cap sheet for many years? Feels more like a retool, of course this has to assume nylander would sign there, if he would I think that’s a great get for Calgary
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
Thread: The shake up that can make sense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Why would Calgary be interested in trading Lindholm for 1 player? He's 1C making less than 5M, that would be in such high demand around the league. Why would Nylander be any more inclined to sign an extension than Lindholm?

You can't compete with a player of Kadri's caliber as your 1C</div></div>

I get that. Usually have to assume a few facts to make these. Was just going with that Calgary would want to trade Lindholm for a 40 goal guy more than multiple pieces in return. And ya gotta assume nylander would sign there. I get it makes them weaker at centre but if they are forced to trade Lindholm that’s going to happen no matter what.
Nylander with Huberdeau would be pretty lethal I think.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 10, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
Thread: Lets see
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mferraro</b></div><div>Byram is too valuable to give up for a pending UFA. Even if they get an extension done with Nylander, Byram has shown a lot for a 21 year old who is going to be on a cheap bridge deal, and then on a cheaper deal than Nylander is going to get long term after the bridge. The amount of control the Avs have on a 21 year old top 4 d with a lot of upside is just too valuable. I know it sounds weird if youre just looking at production but there is a lot more to value than that.

Avs are going to bridge Byram and fill out their roster with contracts that wont interfere with the possibility of bringing Landy back next year and until they know for sure if he can come back or not, then make decisions longer term to replace him.</div></div>

Nah it does make sense! With the cap situation it’s a tough move for them to make.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.
Thread: Marner to Detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Oh you're a Leafs fan lol. Makes sense. Hi there lil buddy!!!! Marner deserves Seider + Raymond + 9OA ++++!!!</div></div>

So all I was trying to point out is that teams would trade some prospects and picks for a 100 point selke nominee if they like that player. Ya they rather him have more term but 2 years is workable and there’s a chance at an extension. Every trade has risks. If Detroit rather keep their prospects and keep drafting that’s cool, they can do that, not every prospect pans out tho. Basically saying that they wouldn’t trade one prospect for a top player in the league doesn’t make much sense. I’m not sure what the price would be but generally teams pay multiple picks/prospects in a deal like this.
Ya I’m a leafs fan, at the end of the day no one here knows what players could be traded and what the price could be. We are shocked by trade returns all the time.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
Thread: Marner to Detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Rather cut my big toe off than deal that lol. 2 years of Marner ain't worth that, especially considering that we're not contenders.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Edvinsson's surgery was a prevention surgery; he wasnt injured, but was prone to an injury.

Regardless, Marner doesn't make much sense for a team that will not be competiting in his 2 years left.</div></div>

Sieder and Raymond only have 1 year til RFA, better trade them now before they could hold out and demand a trade.
Seriously, sorry for being dramatic but I get tired of seeing the “no no no we can’t trade that for player X, he only had 2 years left!!” He’s not going to fall off the face of the earth in 2 years, work out a contract extension or trade him to get some assets back if it doesn’t work out.
Pretty sure any team that is comfortable with the cap hit would trade a late top 10 pick for Marner. Debrincat went for number 7 and 39 and a third. He had 2 years of control.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
Thread: Marner to Detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Marner makes way too much. Even though he's very good, I think these finals are showing that depth and quality are worth more than super high paid players. There isn't a single team left with a player making MORE than 10m a year and all of those teams, that player is their highest paid. Furthermore, the assets it would take to get him, are a double hit. Detroit needs to just keep building through the draft and if they can add a superstar that makes less than 10m in a trade that makes sense, sure, but otherwise, I'd MUCH rather have two VERY good players making 5m...</div></div>

So you can win with a guy making 10 million but not 10.9? Lol. I think Detroit be just fine with marners cap hit because Larkin is at 8.7. Seider will get a high number but that’s on defence so things are more spread out. Torontos problem has always been half the cap on 4 forwards. They bet that those 4 guys could deliver, seems like they can’t together but Marner could absolutely be a force on a different team in the playoffs. You can win with him, just not sure the leafs can.
Detroit seems in good position to resign him too and good chance he would like it there.

As for the trade cost, hard to say but Detroit has the prospects and picks to give Toronto a nice package, they might have to pay a little more for Toronto to deal him in division. I think it’s one of the more likely destinations.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
Thread: Karlsson an option
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dk325</b></div><div>And this silliness makes it even worse. You have pretty much every response in here telling you this is a terrible proposal and you just stick to your guns as if you know better what a team would go for than it's own fans that actually have a grasp on team needs. Take the feedback and accept that Marner to Columbus for their key young players that they're staking their future on is just not a thing that's going to happen.</div></div>

My first response to the feedback said it would take top prospects for Marner but totally cool if Columbus wouldn’t want to do it? That’s what I meant by it’s just an idea man. I’d like to trade Marner for prospects mostly because I like the flexibility of the cap space, I used Columbus, not a good idea, it’s all good.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread: Karlsson an option
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Konkarsson</b></div><div>plz tell me why cbj would do that? thanks</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>CBJ getting absolutely robbed</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>Columbus isn’t moving that much for 2 seasons of Marner, he doesn’t make them a cup contender. Also Marner isn’t resigning with Columbus once he’s a UFA. When Marner was an RFA he basically said he wanted to be a Leaf and was using the potential offersheets to get more money from the leafs.</div></div>

If they were to trade for a top player in the league, it’s not crazy that they have to trade 2 high end prospects and some picks. Totally cool if they wouldn’t want to do it. You can say Marner wouldn’t resign there, no one thought Johnny sign there either. And they didn’t sign him to be in a rebuilt forever. They have other great prospects and the third overall coming in so I think they are in prime position to make a splash.