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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2023 at 7:14 p.m.

Thread: high risk high reward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nix</b></div><div>the jets don’t have there own second round pick so if they did OS him it would have to be in the 4.2-6.4 range, i think that if it’s only 1 year you go high to make it as difficult as possible for nyr to match</div></div>

I don’t disagree. Not sure giving up our 24 1st is a good idea though.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.

Thread: high risk high reward

Not sure you’d have to pay Laf that much. Rangers have like no cap space. Obviously they can just make a deal and match, but would be hard on them either way.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.

Thread: Now what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cory</b></div><div>I don't see NJ parting with Holtz.</div></div>

Neither do I, was partially my point making a ridiculous ask after saying he’d be disappointed with the return. This return here is very healthy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.

Thread: Now what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>You're going to be disappointed in the Hellebuyck return if that's what you expect lol not getting Holtz and a 1st</div></div>

If we don’t get holtz and a 1st I’d rather get krebs and Ostlund.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

Thread: Now what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Like if I'm trading both I'd probably do demelo and helle for
2024 1st ostlund Krebs/rosen joki and upl</div></div>

You’re going to be severely disappointed with the helle and scheif returns…

Debrincat extended barely got a 1st.

I’d be very happy with this return for Helly + Melo. Krebs and Ostlund are worth more than a 1st.

I’d prefer to move Helly to NJ for a package built around Holtz + Vanecek + 24 1st though.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.

Thread: Remaining moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Oh man, get what you're saying but that would be SOOOO BAD and would backfire in their face big time in many different ways.</div></div>

Agree.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 9, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.

Thread: Remaining moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>More value in collecting assets, not saddling oneself with an albatross contract and clearing the way for one of their goalie prospects.

I'm just not a Helle believer, if he couldn't get on a hot streak in his prime with this recent core which was considered fairly good what makes us think he'll get on a good run when he's older and out of his prime with this next core which likely won't be as good or will at least take some time to develop?

I just don't see it happening, imo its best to move on and let him be some other teams headache.</div></div>

I agree with you. Was simply stating that for an org with 0 history of drafting, developing, signing and retiring stars, it might be with a lot to them.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 9, 2023 at 3:50 p.m.

Thread: Remaining moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Gawd help this organization if they re-sign Hellebuyck, even if he comes back to reality with his contract demands its still gonna be a bad deal for whoever he signs with, I pray that's not with the Jets... 🙏</div></div>

There’s some value to be placed on the ability to draft, develop, sign and retire a franchise goalie who’s one of the best of his generation. Adds some pedigree to the jets franchise.

That being said, the smart move would be to move him asap for as much as possible. Try and swing some sort of futures deal to a contender.

Jets can then use those futures to trade for a goalie to replace helly or keep them and use them.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.

Thread: What different routes can we go

Would have to imagine jets say yes to this. Really don’t see them getting a better piece in a Helly deal unless they pull off something ridiculous like packaging scheif and helly together double retained.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.

Thread: Sway for Scheifele

Jets probably want different complimentary pieces along with sway. Goalies don’t hold the same value a 40+ goal scorer does.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.

Thread: couple more moves

Is that you Jack Edwards??

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.

Thread: 2 more additions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetman</b></div><div>Parayko is way better than Sanheim and he is also a cup winning RD</div></div>

Jets should and likely are scared of the super long term. Especially on a dman on the wrong side of 30 who hasn’t played great.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.

Thread: 2 more additions

If they weren’t willing to move a 1st + Schmidt for Sanheim. They definitely aren’t moving that much for parayko.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2023 at 2:05 p.m.

Thread: Gibbye

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>This makes zero sense for Anaheim. We decline.</div></div>

Yeah not sure why Anaheim does this. Winnipeg says thank you.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.

Thread: Remaining Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>You don't win 2 cups by accident. He is a good goalie when healthy and has proven he can handle the mental aspect of the playoffs. Many goalies don't</div></div>

He has been declining for years… did you not watch him in ottawa when he was healthy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2023 at 11:27 p.m.

Thread: Remaining Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Moving a blake wheeler or a Ryan Johanson isn't the same as 1 year of a good but injury prone goalie when no one really better is available beyond Halleybuck.</div></div>

Murray stinks.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2023 at 11:02 p.m.

Thread: Remaining Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>I doubt it costs that much to move Murray. The list of available goalies right now isn't great.</div></div>

You should see how much it costs to move cap right now…

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.

Thread: FANTILLI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ggha777</b></div><div>What a W for CBJ. Now let's have Smith fall to 5.</div></div>

Rip. MTL taking Michkov or reinbacher

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

Thread: Complete craziness

Seattle blocks your number, Detroit likely says no to both deals. I think their 24 1st will be 15-25OA though so I’m not sure how Steve values that. Doubt he has any interest in moving Cossa.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.

Thread: Let Chevy Cook

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Don't disagree, Idk... like I don't think they're bad enough to really bottom out so what do you do to get another center to replace Scheifele?

I think we won't be seeing much of Lucius or Lambert next season so wouldn't count on them slotting into a top 6 center role on the Jets for the 23-24 season.

If they're not rebuilding then what do you do to replace both of your top two centers.</div></div>

Chevy spoke today about helle and scheif being big pieces going forward. Could always just be posturing, but seems like they’ll play the patient game with those two.

He also spoke to Perfetti being drafted as a centre, which is very interesting. Perhaps he starts as the 2C?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.

Thread: Sanheim to Winnipeg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldSchool</b></div><div>Schmidt, 18, and Montreal's 2024 2nd for Sanheim and 22 works for the Flyers.</div></div>

Yes please. Sign me up ASAP. I’ll even sign with my blood if I have to. Like you have no idea how fast I accept this deal lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.

Thread: Sanheim to Winnipeg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rooney</b></div><div>I really like this for the Jets, would probably have to send back Dillon as well.</div></div>

Ideally we move Pionk or Schmidt back in this deal. I could see PHI having interest in Pionk. Can be their PP1 QB after deangelo inevitably is moved to CAR. They can then flip pionk at the TDL or next offseason for a nice package.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.

Thread: Sanheim to Winnipeg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Don’t mind the idea of it, but done as a bargain, rather than full price, that’s a ton of term to eat if it goes bad. Lots of change over up front, so possibly some moves to rebuild the blueline, got to make room or get rid of heinola, also time to decide on Dillon and demelo on contract years, rfa samberg could probably return something decent, so not opposed to trading or a longterm contract. Pionk I would like to see given a partner that works and possibly shined up for a nice deal at the deadline or extended. Morrissey is morrissey probably just left alone, but with his size probably nice to add a little size around him. Stanley can be added into a deal, he needs a change of scenery.</div></div>

Jets have to take risks like these. You’re buying low on a big dman who can eat minutes with term. Sanheim has been great his whole career, until Philly started to suck, and everyone started having worse numbers. This is exactly the type of deal they should be making.

If we could do Schmidt/Pionk, 18th and a 2nd for 22nd and Sanheim I’m all over that deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.

Thread: Let Chevy Cook

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>These Carlo for Scheifele trades need to stop, he's just not available and with the Jets openly saying they're not rebuilding they might as well keep Scheifele, cant see Perfetti ever being a center at the NHL level.</div></div>

I can’t see scheifele staying after the issues with Bowness. Jets are hooped at C unless lambert and Lucius develop. Really would be nice if they somehow could get #5 from MTL and get a stud C….

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.

Thread: Let Chevy Cook

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PHEN</b></div><div>Sabres have a ton of Sabres and Adams loves it because they can play both W and C. Krebs Mitts Jost Girgenson. They all play when needed at C or W</div></div>

Having versatile players is crucial.

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