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Mark Stone comp for Meier

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2023
Published: Jan. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
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Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
At 2019 deadline, the ask for an extended Mark Stone was four assets including a top prospect and a 1st. They got Erik Brannstrom and a 2nd... since his AAV demands scared everyone except Vegas off.

The higher Timo’s number goes up, the fewer will bid. (Last I saw, he wants at least $9m).

Maybe not by Devils, or with this exact amount, but I got a feeling Sharks are about get the short end on this deal based on Meier contract.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
2$950,000
2$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,125,000
1$2,250,000
3$1,500,000
3$1,350,000
1$950,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
7$9,150,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,650,000
Trades
NJD
  1. Meier, Timo [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
2023 deadline deal.

It has been reported that Meier's contract demands are well above $9 million, which could limit the trade return for San Jose. If his expectations are for top dollar, then the fair comp to use here is probably Mark Stone, who was traded to Vegas at 2019 deadline by Ottawa.

At the time of the deal, Stone was the NHL leader in Goals-above-Replacement (GAR) and the expectations were for a massive return for Ottawa. BOS, CGY, NSH, NYI and WPG were the most common teams linked to him before deadline. The asking price at the time was " four assets, including a first-round pick and an A-level prospect" according to Fourth Period. Pat Steinberg said the ask from Calgary was "multiple 1sts, one of Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington, and more". From others, Craig Custance said it was "at least two first-round picks" and more.

But the actual return was a lot less than expected since Stone was uncertain to sign and wanted top dollar. Erik Brannstrom, who at the time was The Athletic's 19th best from outside the NHL, and a pick in the late 2nd round.
SJS
  1. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
(maybe not this little, but a lot less than expectations)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$80,450,834$422,500$1,390,000$3,049,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
$9,150,000$9,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$950,000$950,000
LW
RFA
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,650,000$4,650,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$918,333$918,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
RD
RFA - 3
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$850,833$850,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 1

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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
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Meier’s current market worth is $10.8 mil, $9 mil is more than fair. A trade 4 years ago isn’t a great comp especially when he was traded as a rental without an extension in place. If this is the offer sharks just keep him
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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Think that makes a lot of sense. Only difference I can see, from your breakdown at least is BUF and NJD can both make big money work for at least a few years (BUF I'm convinced can for 4, not sure about NJ). Could the same be said about the 5 interested in Stone at the time?
Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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Some rumored asks for Stone, pre-deadline

For Boston: DeBrusk, Donato, Heinen or JFK, 1st (link)
NHL Network: Four pieces including two 1sts, two Grade-A prospects (link)
Elliotte Friedman: "big" (link)
Pat Steinberg on Calgary: "multiple 1sts + one of Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington + more" (link)
Fourth Period: "four assets, including a first-round pick and an A-level prospect." (link)
The Athletic: "at least two first-round picks" (link)
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
Meier’s current market worth is $10.8 mil, $9 mil is more than fair. A trade 4 years ago isn’t a great comp especially when he was traded as a rental without an extension in place. If this is the offer sharks just keep him


It was with extension
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Jan. 28, 2023 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: nhldeadline2
Think that makes a lot of sense. Only difference I can see, from your breakdown at least is BUF and NJD can both make big money work for at least a few years (BUF I'm convinced can for 4, not sure about NJ). Could the same be said about the 5 interested in Stone at the time?


They all wanted him long-term...and the traded asks were based on Stone coming with extension, but he only agreed to sign Vegas offer, so Ottawa dealt him there for paltry return.

I'd have to look at how much cap space they had.
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