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Stop Trading for Dubois or anybody really

Created by: ricochetii
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2023
Published: Mar. 5, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
We don't need Dubois before he becomes a free agent. We are still in development mode next season. We need a strong healthy year that reinforces that the players we are expecting to perform well will continue to do so, before we can justify going out and making big acquisitions.

We will still likely be in need of a goaltender at this time (Montembault is not worth a long term investment, imo, as admirable as his efforts have been). Hellebuyck is just one free agency possibility that season used as a representation of the possible need to sign a starter.

I'm not counting on Gallagher and Armia to be in the lineup, but I am counting their cap hits in case they are not on LTIR.
Beck and Roy I have penciled in as good bets to make it sooner rather than later, but there are other possibilities in that time frame as well. Consider them as swappable parts should they need more time in the AHL.
I also have Ylonen on standby should he stick around in place of another option.

Cap hits for bridge contracts and free agency signings can be adjusted depending on the market at the time. I've left a cap cushion and assumed a stagnant cap raise.

No matter what happens, we are going to be in the market for a top pairing RHD to replace/succeed Savard, or at least a top 4 to complement Guhle (assuming he secures his position). The draft isn't likely to provide one in this timeline, which leaves a trade or UFA signing, but we may dip our toes into the playoffs this season before making such a move.

In the meantime, we are stockpiling all our assets. The time to spend will begin, either before, during, or after this season.
We may have to make a big trade for a defenseman and/or move out some contracts from non-performing players, and with a successful season, we may need to consider deadline rentals the following year.
We may have both positive and negative occurrences during this time and need to make changes, and the assets saved on not making moves now, will come in handy to adapt and strengthen the team when it makes more sense to do so.

P.S. I'm not forgetting Gurianov, I'm just leaving him out until we know whether he's worth the investment. He'll probably be here next year on at least a trial run, but the year after is yet to be determined.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,000,000
1$1,400,000
8$7,750,000
1$1,400,000
1$900,000
1$1,400,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$7,000,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
UFA Signing - Not a trade
WPG
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$84,500,000$77,660,000$1,022,500$3,940,000$6,840,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$885,000$885,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C
RFA - 2
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$835,000$835,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
UFA - 7
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA
Taxi Squad
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$900,000$900,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
RFA

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Mar. 5, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
#1
Once a Kings Fan Too
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The voice of reason. Alas, I fear that it will fall on too many deaf ears.
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Mar. 5, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
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Jeff Gorton
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Not signing him would cost the Habs over 2M aav and an extra year to the contract. And theres still no guarantee he signs
Mar. 5, 2023 at 11:37 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Not signing him would cost the Habs over 2M aav and an extra year to the contract. And theres still no guarantee he signs


You mean not trading for him, but even if he doesn't come to Montreal, we have Dach with players like Beck and Kidney coming up, plus whoever else we pick up in the meantime.
If we still need someone more established, then we use the assets we saved at that point, not before.
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Mar. 5, 2023 at 11:41 p.m.
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Juraj SlafDadsky
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Finally someone understands we are not paying assets to trade for PLD when he wants to come as a UFA, we are rebuilding, just let us rebuild. Also it's very likely that Sean Farrell comes up before the end of this year, and I think next year he'd make an excellent RW for Suzuki and Caufield, just a line of pure hockey IQ.
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Mar. 5, 2023 at 11:44 p.m.
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Jeff Gorton
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Quoting: ricochetii
You mean not trading for him, but even if he doesn't come to Montreal, we have Dach with players like Beck and Kidney coming up, plus whoever else we pick up in the meantime.
If we still need someone more established, then we use the assets we saved at that point, not before.


Habs would keep Dach in any Dubois trade and Dubois is better than both Beck and Kidney. And Habs need elite forwards, not fringe top 6 players. Habs have the quantity of prospects. Its time to turn them into quality players
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