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Created by: ChiHawks34
Team: 2017-18 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 19, 2017
Published: Dec. 20, 2017
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The team is in the mist of a potential rebuild AGAIN. Do you guys think Eichel will be patient through the next 5 years or will he demand a trade? What do you guys think?

I Also propose a ballpark trade to acquire him that i think could be semi decent. I also leave potential prospects going to buffalo in there as well.
Trades
BUF
  1. Rask, Victor
  2. 2018 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2018 2nd round pick (CAR)
  4. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
  5. 2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
  6. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Sabres in this scenario was forced to trade eichel, but gets 3 1sts, 2 2nds and a 2C to really help the Rebuild.
CAR
  1. Eichel, Jack
Additional Details:
Jack Eichel will be worth at the very least 3 1st rounders and more. He is very young, signed for 8 years which that 10m cap hit will be a steal moving forward, and he will continue getting better.
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$75,000,000$61,953,691$0$3,500,000$13,046,309
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 6
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 6
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$625,000$625,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,475,000$1,475,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,142,857$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:04 a.m.
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Him asking for a trade this early into his career would send bad signals to a lot of teams. If he would ask for it, the universal response from everyone in the hockey world would be "suck it up you big baby, you have 10 million reasons to shut your dirty mouth"
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Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Him asking for a trade this early into his career would send bad signals to a lot of teams. If he would ask for it, the universal response from everyone in the hockey world would be "suck it up you big baby, you have 10 million reasons to shut your dirty mouth"[/quote

Im talking like within a few years. Not necessarily this year, though my trade option is this year for the hell of it. We still get a gist of his value. I could see though it would make him look really bad. But at the same time, if i was him, i wouldn't want to be stuck for 5 years in a rebuild.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:13 a.m.
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Those 3 1st round picks could be the next mxdavid lr Matthews, no team is that desperate .
Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:21 a.m.
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Those 3 1st round picks could be the next mxdavid lr Matthews, no team is that desperate .


carolina would have to absolutely bomb it, and even if they are the worst 5 teams in the league, they have under a 20 percent chance to win the lottery. I understand your view on it, but Carolina would have to have everything go for them to have the right picks to make that happen.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:24 a.m.
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No way would I ever give that up for Eichel. Not happening.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:29 a.m.
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No way would I ever give that up for Eichel. Not happening.


even if 3 1sts gets him? he is a star and will continue getting better. Carolina needs a true 1C. Tavares is going to resign with the Islanders now that they got a stadium. Sticking with Staal and rask is not going to improve Carolina. Plus they are not going to get top 5 picks for their 1sts either.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:35 a.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawks34
even if 3 1sts gets him? he is a star and will continue getting better. Carolina needs a true 1C. Tavares is going to resign with the Islanders now that they got a stadium. Sticking with Staal and rask is not going to improve Carolina. Plus they are not going to get top 5 picks for their 1sts either.


I'm personally not a fan of Eichel. I never thought he was going to be as good as people hyped him to be. So yeah, I wouldn't. If anything if I'm Carolina I'd package 2 firsts to move up further in a draft. Plus, they have enough good, young D they can move up to the top 5 if they really wanted to.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 12:50 a.m.
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Nope. You sign a guy to a contract like that it becomes almost untradeable. Eichel is Buffalo now, so he better figure it out
Dec. 20, 2017 at 1:17 a.m.
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Nope. You sign a guy to a contract like that it becomes almost untradeable. Eichel is Buffalo now, so he better figure it out


Ownership will just keep firing people for him. He's likely okay with that. Just thankful he's not my team's problem.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 5:34 a.m.
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To put it in perspective.... Boston got two first for Kessel... so eichal would definitely be worth more. But there’s no way he’s getting moved
Dec. 20, 2017 at 6:25 a.m.
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The rfa compensation would be 4 firsts if a team had signed him to his current deal. So this is probably the right ballpark. Its a monster risk for buffalo. I think of some of our recent not top 10 first rounders- pysyk, ennis, armia, kassian- these werent the straight up busts, but these are just guys on a team. To say eichel isnt worth it is ridiculous.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 6:45 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 20, 2017 at 8:02 a.m.
"Could Eichel want to be traded?" You bet. IMO, he had "signers regret", the moment he inked that contract. Not that I blame for taking 80m, but the reality is it looking bleak for the Sabres for the next four years. And then it still means that the Sabres will have to develop their next group of young players well to make a step towards playoff contention.
Not too many players have the "courage" to do what Trouba did two summers ago. Turn down a long term deal, and take a very modest two year deal. Leads to being a UFA, four yeas after his expiring ELC.
The trade: I don't think he would get all that, though it only takes one team to make the deal. Why? There aren't many good teams that have 10m cap space. So now you're looking at poorer teams, lottery teams, who might not want to risk so many high picks for one player. But here is the biggest reason why I think the trade won't fly. You aren't taking any money back in a trade. So a team could spend 10m in free agency, and still keep all it's draft picks. To me that could be a lot better (though maybe not) that spending 10m on one guy. Two 5m UFAs isn't as good as Eichel likely, but keeping the three first rounders and more, if I'm a GM I'd want want.
As you described why it's beneficial to the Sabres "but gets 3 1sts, 2 2nds and a 2C to really help the Rebuild." The exact same reason, why another team wants their picks, and the 10m cap space.
It's the same reason why don't see many RFA offer sheets. Teams have to spend to the players value and give up four first rounders for a premier players. Isn't to better just to spend that "premier player "money elsewhere and keep your four first rounders?
Dec. 20, 2017 at 8:02 a.m.
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Not. Going. Anywhere. Enough said.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 8:18 a.m.
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Yeah I don't see him being traded either. It is worth the discussion though. I don't see a "bottom feeder" or frugal...to be nice... team trading for him for exactly what Palhal said. They have to give up quality picks that'll be on ELCs forever...etc... Where things get a little more complicated is taking money back. Stay on the crazy train with me for a minute...but...if team were to send salary back...like PIT for example could send Geno and picks. PIT could rebuild on the fly. I'm actually not suggesting PIT needs to rebuild, back to back cups speaks for itself AND I'm certainly not saying Geno specifically would approve this trade...but anything is possible and this is just an example, but again, I think BUF would HAVE to take a large cap hit back.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 9:02 a.m.
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Yeah I don't see him being traded either. It is worth the discussion though. I don't see a "bottom feeder" or frugal...to be nice... team trading for him for exactly what Palhal said. They have to give up quality picks that'll be on ELCs forever...etc... Where things get a little more complicated is taking money back. Stay on the crazy train with me for a minute...but...if team were to send salary back...like PIT for example could send Geno and picks. PIT could rebuild on the fly. I'm actually not suggesting PIT needs to rebuild, back to back cups speaks for itself AND I'm certainly not saying Geno specifically would approve this trade...but anything is possible and this is just an example, but again, I think BUF would HAVE to take a large cap hit back.


Taking a good player thats earning a respectable salary is one thing, but anything that remotely looks like a cap dump is out. We wouldn't be sweetening any deal.
Dec. 20, 2017 at 5:02 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 21, 2017 at 8:21 a.m.
Sabres89. I 100% agree. If it were Geno and a 1st rounder...I'd still say BUF's getting the raw end, but these contracts are too big to move without salary coming back or retention. I'm a Hawks fan...and for what it's worth...I HOPE that when ownership truly decides that it's time for a rebuild...they purge AND eat salary while a rebuild is going on because A.) You'll get more pieces back in a trade B.) More team options to trade to (appeasing NMC) and C.) you're already going to stink so get better draft picks with your own selections.
 
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