Lehner>>Elliott
Lehner is younger and pretty much the same stats with a much worse defense. Elliott is almost out of his prime and has dropped off drastically.

Before his injury, Laberge intrigued me but he hasn't been a point per game in the Q since his draft season two years ago and hasn't looked that great IMO. I'd rather a center who at least looks like a NHL'er soon enough in Rubstov.

I'd also do the Lehtera for Schlemko deal we spoke about a while ago. At Schlemko's cap hit you could put him on waivers and if no bites send him to Leheigh valley, he'd only cost 900K on the cap at that point so nothing to worry about.

Yeah what he said....

GMBots will go the FA route to get Linus his blanket (I mean mentor).

Lehner's value is at least a 2nd Round pick or a top prospect Dman.

Much worse defense? Do you know how bad the Flyers D has been? Similar stats doesn't make him >> either but you are also getting a pick as well.

Sabres would much rather keep Lehner there and I think any speculation about Lehner is blown out of proportion by shady rumor sites and ACGMs here take those opinions at face value

Who is going to give you a 2nd for him when you couldn't get anything at the TDL?

In this scenario you get the 13th and 14th OA picks instead of the 14th and 19th, that is why Rubstov is not in this deal.

That's fine. You can just ignore the age part I guess. And cool a 5th round pick. Very useful.

I thought you guys wanted Ullmark to be your starter? Doesn't it make sense to get 1 year of Elliott over multiple years of Lehner? I also find it funny that most of you Sabres fans have been letting him walk and have hated on him all year and now you think he is worth something.

You dont know that he was actively shopped (he wasnt). Sabres only said they were willing to move anyone not named Eichel to make the team better.

Fine you know what since you guys all of a sudden think Lehner should be your starter, I will reverse the trade. Seems pretty dumb to me to pay a goalie 3-4 mil to be a backup.

Not all Sabres ACGMs are the same, some actually think for themselves. Lehner stood on his head for the Sabres having a decent 1a 1b is not a bad thing

Yea I noticed and I still prefer Rubtsov!

lets just say he rubts be the right way!

Double D I for one have been stating all along on this site:

1. Lehner is much better than the fan base in Buffalo perceives him;

2. GMBots has at numerous times stated Ullmark will be his #1 or at least play 50% of the games in 18/19;

3. I do not expect Lehner to be in Buffalo next year.

4. Pertaining to #3 I do not see GMBots just giving Lehner away. I do expect that he will fetch more than what the so called experts are predicting;

5. If GMBots can not get what he believes is 'fair' for him he will sign him and allow him to split time with Linus until the TDL to see if he can get a 'fair' return at that point;

All I ask is for everyone not to lump all individuals into a group. I pride myself on not being part of 'Group' think. I try to be fair and call em as I see em. If I change my opinion I will own it.

I do appreciate your efforts in publishing a team.

I did say "most" not all...just wanted that to be clarified.

Don't think that Montreal has any incentive to move their pick unless they get above face and player value. Would think there is a better offer than essentially 13 and 14.

Don't understand why Frost makes the team. Now he is eligible for expansion by playing over 9 games. Rather use Vorobyov as the 3/4C and have Laughton play on the wing.

Same goes for Allison, especially if he is only gettting around 8-10 minutes a game.

Have they changed the expansions rules? I thought you basically had to play more than a full season to be eligible.

Are those the line combos you want to see with that roster? That's over 17 million being scratched. I know they wont carry that many bodies but come on

What does the $$ matter? Hextal puts the best lineup on the ice.

Chances are that Frost stays in the O and Myers may get another year in the AHL.

I don't see the Stars giving up the 13th overall pick (and only 1st round pick) the year they host the draft and a top prospect with another 1st round pick (conditional or not) for 1 year of Simmonds and a back-up goalie. Maybe Simmonds and 19th overall for 13th overall but they may still balk at that with the talent level/potential that is supposed to still be available at 13 - just my .02 cents.

This fills the needs of DAL very well. Lehtonen is absolute trash and their RW is just bad beyond Radulov. Spezza is basically a cap dump so that also works in the FLyers favour. The conditions on the 2020 1st makes a big difference in the deal. Basically the value breaks down like this IMO...

Neuvy>Spezza
Simmonds (1 Year) = 13OA + Gurianov, first rights to get an extension done with simmer and remainder of value difference between Spezza and Neuvy
DAL 2020 1st makes up the remaining value if Simmonds resigns with DAL.

I put zero thought into DAL hosting because it makes ZERO difference. If the team gets better with a trade, the GM is going to make it. Trade gets done at the draft and DAL still gets their draft excitement.

I think you might be slightly overvaluing Simmonds - which isn't to say he's not a player I would mind seeing in Dallas - I would actually love it for Dallas to acquire him, I just don't think he's worth basically 3 1st round picks for potentially 1 year which is what you are suggesting.

On top of that Kari as a starter was no good - true - much like Neuvirth for part of last year. This year as the back-up Neuvirth had a 2.60 gaa / .915 save percentage compared to Kari's 2.56/.912 which looks pretty similar to me. Add in Kari is off the books and there are several back-ups that will be UFA's this summer that don't cost us anything but a contract.

The current thinking is that Spezza would have a bounce back year with the new coach who is more of a puck possession/controlled entries guy than Hitchcock's offense killing dump and chase scheme that isn't Spezza's game at all. Dallas also doesn't have any Cap issues that would require them to dump Spezza in a $ saving move - he comes off the books next year when Seguin's big raise would take effect.

Stars look to be bringing back Nichushkin this summer to play on RW. Their biggest need is looking like a #2 LW (currently held by Janmark) which Simmonds could fill, but with JVR , James Neal, David Perron, Rick Nash, Evander Kane as potential LW UFAs to be signed for nothing but $; and that doesn't include the young prospects that will be vying for a spot with the Org talking about giving their youth a chance to step up, I just don't see them giving up that much futures for potentially 1 year of Simmonds - especially with how high the NHL as a whole is WRT 1st round pick value and developing from within.

I also think the fact they are hosting has an impact - they'd have to be blown away with the offer to give up their first round pick this year, especially not receiving a later one as part of the return and Simmond's for 3 1st rounders just doesn't do that in my eyes.

I see what you are getting at but again, it isn't 3 1sts for 1 year of Simmonds, that is why the condition is there. Change the 2020 1st to a 2nd if that will make you feel better about the value. As for Spezza, sure he could bounce back and that would be great for Dallas but he is also 34 now and with the speed of the game now, can he really come close to what he has been in the past? And Nichuskin is not a done deal by any means. Until he signs on that dotted line, I would consider him not to be available.