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Stop with the Kessel trades.

Created by: scottclev
Team: 2018-19 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2018
Published: May 27, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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It's not happening. GMJR isn't an idiot. I know some of these trades may be a stretch, but just for fun. Cap is to be between 78-82 so I went in the middle.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
3$975,000
3$1,500,000
3$975,000
3$975,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,800,000
2$1,500,000
3$2,500,000
Trades
1.
2.
PIT
  1. 2018 7th round pick (ARI)
3.
CAR
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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Logo of the ARI
2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$80,000,000$74,202,392$0$132,500$5,797,608
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$734,167$734,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$2,860,000$2,860,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$975,000$975,000
RW
UFA - 1
$975,000$975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$1,800,000$1,800,000
C
UFA - 4
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 5
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$2,800,000$2,800,000
LD
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 27, 2018 at 7:37 a.m.
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You forgot to sign Oleksiak and Kuhnhackl shouldn't be on the starting roster. Kuhnhackl is awful.
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May 27, 2018 at 7:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Hamburglar44
You forgot to sign Oleksiak and Kuhnhackl shouldn't be on the starting roster. Kuhnhackl is awful.


I didn't forget to sign Oleksiak. I think Cole is a better fit, especially in a playoff run. He was sorely missed this post season.
And Kuhnhackl isn't awful. He's a grinder, and a good one. No one is expecting 20/20 from him.
May 27, 2018 at 7:56 a.m.
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Carolina finally has TT putting up offensive numbers i doubt they move him for that. Hags only has what 1 year left on his deal not the kind of player they want. Maybe if you added something to it you cluld try and rent skinner from them. I agree about cole. He is an underated player and i hope he gets a good deal and a good team.
May 27, 2018 at 8:08 a.m.
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Quoting: scottclev
I didn't forget to sign Oleksiak. I think Cole is a better fit, especially in a playoff run. He was sorely missed this post season.
And Kuhnhackl isn't awful. He's a grinder, and a good one. No one is expecting 20/20 from him.


You may be correct, his 3 goals n 7 points in 47 playoff games plus 11 goals n 38 points in 168 regular season games will absolutely be missed. By the time he scores 20 career goals, he will be 30 years old. Obviously Cole isn't a better fit, he was a healthy scratch for how many games before when was dealt at the deadline? I like Cole and wish we never traded him but he won't come back because of how he was treated here. The Kessel trade rumors are ridiculous as well. Aside from the bad contacts that need to be moved (Hagelin, Hunwick n Sheary), Maatta is the only player I would look to trade.
May 27, 2018 at 8:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Hamburglar44
You may be correct, his 3 goals n 7 points in 47 playoff games plus 11 goals n 38 points in 168 regular season games will absolutely be missed. By the time he scores 20 career goals, he will be 30 years old. Obviously Cole isn't a better fit, he was a healthy scratch for how many games before when was dealt at the deadline? I like Cole and wish we never traded him but he won't come back because of how he was treated here. The Kessel trade rumors are ridiculous as well. Aside from the bad contacts that need to be moved (Hagelin, Hunwick n Sheary), Maatta is the only player I would look to trade.


Maatta is a career +/- 52, and a playoff career +28......yeah trade him smfh. As for TT, everyone but Aho is rumored to be available.
May 27, 2018 at 9:31 a.m.
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Maatta is a career +/- 52, and a playoff career +28......yeah trade him smfh. As for TT, everyone but Aho is rumored to be available.


+/- is a useless stat and every statistician specifically states such. It's not an individual stat. Same with GAA. An example would be if you put Crosby on a line with scrubs like Kunhackl and Craig Adams and gave him Scuderi and Hunwick as the D. No matter how good Crosby is, his plus minus, possession numbers, points per game, etc would all be down in the crapper. You could also say if they ran their team like a junior league team and just put Crosby with all the best players then all of his personal stats would be grossly over inflated. +/- is just a poor stat line to compare skill level. Maatta is sooooooooo slow it makes him a liability. He fears physicality and can't make quick decisions with the puck. His salary could be better spent elsewhere and he's young enough to package in a deal to get a decent return.
May 27, 2018 at 10:23 a.m.
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TT for hagelin is a good joke.
May 27, 2018 at 12:49 p.m.
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Kessel is gone bro, It sucks but Sully aint playing him and Sprong in same lineup .... and MM said its gona happen and he is not one for fake Pens rumors
May 27, 2018 at 1:34 p.m.
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I say keep making kessel trades, why the **** not? its fun
May 27, 2018 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: scottclev
I didn't forget to sign Oleksiak. I think Cole is a better fit, especially in a playoff run. He was sorely missed this post season.
And Kuhnhackl isn't awful. He's a grinder, and a good one. No one is expecting 20/20 from him.


so youd just let a promising RFA go for nothing?
May 27, 2018 at 2:37 p.m.
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Just adding fuel to the fire, any interest in trying to trade Letang?
May 27, 2018 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Hamburglar44
You may be correct, his 3 goals n 7 points in 47 playoff games plus 11 goals n 38 points in 168 regular season games will absolutely be missed. By the time he scores 20 career goals, he will be 30 years old. Obviously Cole isn't a better fit, he was a healthy scratch for how many games before when was dealt at the deadline? I like Cole and wish we never traded him but he won't come back because of how he was treated here. The Kessel trade rumors are ridiculous as well. Aside from the bad contacts that need to be moved (Hagelin, Hunwick n Sheary), Maatta is the only player I would look to trade.


Kuhnhackl is a fine 4th liner. He's a good penalty killer, the Penguins best forward for shot blocking, and his offensive game is starting to come along.
May 27, 2018 at 8:14 p.m.
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Kuhnhackl is a fine 4th liner. He's a good penalty killer, the Penguins best forward for shot blocking, and his offensive game is starting to come along.


Explain how his offensive game is coming along??? He has 11 goals in 168 regular season games and 3 goals in 47 playoff games. ANYBODY can kill penalties. You don't build a hockey team based on special teams and you certainly don't pay players based on shots blocked. If he was remotely gifted offensively then he wouldn't need to be blocking shots because his possession numbers would indicate he isn't always in his own defensive zone. Plus, why handicap Sheehan with a plug? If anything, Sprong n Simon should be the 4th liners as they can create offensive chances.
May 31, 2018 at 6:43 a.m.
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Just adding fuel to the fire, any interest in trying to trade Letang?


I wish they would, but I know GMJR won't and even if he did the return wouldn't be enough.
 
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