IDK that your offer gets it done. You'd be better off trying to build something around 7OA and Boeser. Even then I still think Buffalo would want more .

Boeser horvat juolevi demko 7oa. Basically overpay beyond overpayment. Nothing less.

Boeser + 7OA + Juolevi for 1OA + Reinhart?

keep your 4th and throw in Reinhart.

No

Um.... as a Caps fan I'd like to jump in here and just point out that Wojme is the only Sabres fan in this thread, so far. You're arguing with a Canuck fan fantasy that Buffalo fans do not want, and saying it should be even better for the Canucks. Good luck with that. Wojme's point is that he doesn't want to see the pick traded. If you agree, you could always just say so.

Vancouvers pick would have to come back and the Sabres arent adding:
Boeser
Pettersson
2018 1st (VAN) to start maybe Juolevi as well

For how bad we need d? If that pick were to be made available it would take a lindros like return. Nobody would pay that today, nor should they. And we would be fools to accept any less.

Lol, i just realized they left pettersson off. I dont think you get a list of untouchable players if you wanna sit at that table.

Fair enough nobody would want to trade Dahlin but Pettersson could end up being the Forsberg to your Lindros

If I were GM Boeser + Juolevi + 7OA for 1OA + a roster player would be as far as I would go (and I've been frothing over Dahlin for the past year)

I hope Buffalo can turn their top prospects into success and don't end up like Edmonton

Who do you see the canucks taking at 7? I would think at least one of dobson, hughes, or boqvist should be there.

I dont want to sit at the table

Who knows, not many people saw the Pettersson pick coming but maybe Boqvist if he’s available as he’s a similar high ceiling/higher risk type pick. I would also be happy with Dobson and Wahlstrom (if he can play LW) but just not Bouchard

As a Jackets fan, there is no way Buffalo should even considering moving that pick. Dahlin is too valuable and Elite Defensemen are gold.

Boeser + Pettersson + Juolevi + 2018 1st + 2019 1st + 2020 1st but really there is no way that Botterill will trade that pick. I have no idea if this is good analogy, but what would Pittsburgh have wanted for Crosby. Just for the fun of it let's say a team offered ten first round picks. That team would have been as good as Pittsburgh was for the next ten years, now look at who was drafted in each one of those spots, Jordan Staal, Angelo Esposito, Daultan Leveille, Simon Despres, Beau Bennett, Joe Morrow, Olli Maatta, Morgan Klimchuk, Kasperi Kapanen, and Mathew Barzal. What do you all think are they worth Crosby? So now tell me what are you offering for Dahlin, it is not enough

Whoa. Staal, Kapanen, and Barzaal? I mean, they don't have Crosby's four cup rings between them, but if you stick them on a team that already had a young Fleury and Malkin, I bet they'd do okay. But, of course, maybe not all at the same time.

At the end of this list, there are some examples of how trades involving top picks can blow up for either side. https://www.thesportster.com/hockey/mike-milburys-top-15-worst-moves-as-a-gm/

If Botterrill's goal is to avoid blame and look intelligent, keeping the #1 overall pick and taking the consensus favorite is the best move he can make.

If he's got a vision for how to improve the Sabres and get much more competitive right away, there's a chance he'll make them better, but there's a big risk that they'll stay bad, but suddenly that will be seen as his fault rather than the fault of the players. So that's what he's up against, and why trading for Dahlin right before draft day costs more than at any other time, and won't happen. Of course, Vancouver would be taking the same kind of risk, and probably isn't looking to lose the trade in any measurable way, either.

It's much easier to trade up/down at later spots, when teams and fans aren't all that invested, emotionally. If either of these teams wants, say, the Caps' first round pick this year, I bet they offer, what, a couple seconds? Not even? And everybody shrugs on all sides.

I told you before, you cheat, you always use facts to support your point of view, that is not fair .
I know, It was sort of self defeating that the 1st player drafted was Staal. But I think you get the point, out of 10 picks 3 are top 6 forwards, and that is 10 first round picks. who would offer 10 firsts for one first but it is not enough and I would not take it.

Anucks to to try and stock the cupboards. Trade the 7OA for the Flyers 2 firsts. It will help you more in the rebuild process.

Yeah. It's a great point, Pisstburgh was much better off for getting Crosby right away.

In more facts, the NHL awarded the Capitals five straight years of first round picks as compensation for (before unrestricted free agency) St. Louis signing a 30 year old Scott Stevens to a five year, 25 million dollar contract. The Caps' general manager, David Poile, actually wanted to match it, but their owner, who had created the Caps because he couldn't get loans for a new basketball arena without adding another tenant, did not think any hockey player was worth five million dollars. Of course the Blues didn't get Bettman's hint to stop signing free agents and the league's arbitrators gave Stevens to New Jersey the next summer as compensation for St. Louis signing Brendan Shanahan to a similarly huge deal. Each would go on to win Stanley Cups without St. Louis. The Caps ended up with Pat Peake (injured after one season), Andrew Brunette (lost in expansion draft, average for Wild, passenger in Chicago), and... https://www.japersrink.com/2012/10/18/3509514/scott-stevens-capitals-draft-pick-witt-gonchar-forsberg Sergei Gonchar and Brendan Witt, the latter of whom they traded for a pick that became Semyon Varlamov, whom they traded for a pick that became Filip Forsberg, whom they traded for nobody, and who.... was never heard from again.

Even so, Witt and Gonchar combined for one finals appearance in Washington. Forsberg had a third in Nashville. Gonchar won one cup in Pittsburgh. Stevens won three in New Jersey. So, yeah, keep Dahlin.

On the other hand: Patrik Stefan, Rick DiPietro, Alexandre Daigle, and Radek Bonk were all first overall picks, and Stevens wasn't. So if it gets up to Juolevi, Boeser, Tanev, Leipsic, and a couple 2nds? That'd probably be a good deal.