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Could Two Old Rivals Make a Deal?

Created by: FreshCleanIce
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 4, 2018
Published: Jul. 5, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Probably not but, lets have some fun anyways
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,500,000
1$900,000
8$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Voynov, Slava
1$4,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Kadri, Nazem
Additional Details:
RFA Nylander
TOR
  1. Pacioretty, Max ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Petry, Jeff ($1,000,000 retained)
  3. 2019 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
RFA Danault
2.
PIT
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. 2020 6th round pick (WSH)
4.
MTL
  1. 2019 6th round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the WPG
2020
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the MTL
2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$76,348,701$0$2,032,500$3,151,299

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
C
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 4
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Voynov, Slava
$4,000,000$4,000,000
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 5, 2018 at 2:42 a.m.
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those leafs and pens trades are garbage for them no way either excepts
Jul. 5, 2018 at 4:37 a.m.
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What is MTLs sudden fascination with Maata?

like every MTL GM i see lately has him

is there a rumors going around or something?
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Jul. 5, 2018 at 5:28 a.m.
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Sorry but yikes, Montreal sure has some ugly contracts between Price, Weber and Petry while being in very tough shape standings wise. And yes, I am aware who I root for and their situation as well!!
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Doesn't make the Leafs better in 2019/20. Leafs would interested in the first round pick though, but not much else, for what they are giving up.
Jul. 5, 2018 at 8:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Shifttee
What is MTLs sudden fascination with Maata?

like every MTL GM i see lately has him

is there a rumors going around or something?

Agreed. Don't see the major fascination there. He doesn't solve the long term problem on the left side. I also do not understand why all these "GMs" think that a rebuilding bottom 10 (possibly bottom 5) team is going to trade their upcoming 1st round pick.

Yes two old rivals can make a deal (hell they did it multiple times in the past few years) but this deal is not going to happen. Also 8x8 for Nylander? As bad as how Leaf fans value him.
Jul. 5, 2018 at 10:55 a.m.
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Kadri is the 2nd best asset in that trade offer, the third best asset is the 1st round pick, leaving Nylander as the best asset in that trade. Centres are way more valuable than wingers (Kadri > Patches) and Nylander would immediately become Montreal's best player. Toronto isn't giving up the best 3rd line centre in hockey for an okay winger, a decent defenceman and a first.
Jul. 5, 2018 at 11:48 a.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Kadri is the 2nd best asset in that trade offer, the third best asset is the 1st round pick, leaving Nylander as the best asset in that trade. Centres are way more valuable than wingers (Kadri > Patches) and Nylander would immediately become Montreal's best player. Toronto isn't giving up the best 3rd line centre in hockey for an okay winger, a decent defenceman and a first.


Phil Danault is also part of the deal. The way I see it is that they end up getting #1 LW #1 RD #3 center 1st and 2nd with no conditions for their 2 better centers. I also don't agree that Kadri > Patches.
Jul. 5, 2018 at 11:59 a.m.
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Phil Danault is also part of the deal. The way I see it is that they end up getting #1 LW #1 RD #3 center 1st and 2nd with no conditions for their 2 better centers. I also don't agree that Kadri > Patches.


Hard no on this deal. Petry is not a #1 RHD, he's 3rd pairing on a lot of teams. He's good, don't get me wrong but he's no top defender. Patches is a winger, therefore he is less valuable than a centre who scores 30 goals. Really the past two season, Kadri has been far more valuable than Patches. Wingers are a dime a dozen. Watch Hymen score 50+ points this year which won't be far off from what Patches gets. Good centres make wingers look good. No need to waste resources on Patches who is older and far more expensive that the wingers the leafs have.

As for Danault, the guy will likely ask for over 4 million a season, Kadri makes 4.5 million a season. Why would Toronto essentially downgrade their top line winger position Nylander is better than Patches and vastly downgrade their 3rd line centre position Kadri is way better than Danault for Petry who is too old to be effective for the entirety of the window the Leafs will have with their young stars? All of that for a 1st round pick? Which would likely be a mid rounder since the trade greatly improves the Canadiens.

This is a terrible deal and one that doesn't make sense on basically any level.
 
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