The oilers heavily pass

Columbus wants way more for panarin

All in...but all decline.

Oilers probably say hell no.

I dont understand why people still think Backes can get the Bs anything of value. I keep seeing it over and over. He has almost no value to any one anymore. Its more like Backes (with retained salary) and a prospect for a 5th.

I don't understand why people think Backes isn't worth anything. The guy was playing at a nearly .60 P/GP place last year, he was just dealing with medical issues. I find it hard to believe that teams have no use for a guy who plays a nearly a 50pt pace, is a great locker room guy and brings a physical presence to every game he's in. For whatever reason Krejci and Backes are seen as trash/cap dumps, but both are still productive players all things considered.

Basically most people on here overvalue their own teams players, and treat anything from other teams as spare parts unless its their stars. Also players in the last year of their deals before UFA status are considered essentially no value, because they assume the player will not sign with the team trading for them. Also players on teams with a large fanbase that make a lot of armchair GM posts (Habs, Leafs, Oilers, Hawks, Bruins, etc.) have even less value to most because of the team they play for.

I can see your point, Backes does bring quite a bit to the table, its just the contract would be a big issue for teams to take on, hes a little overpaid for what he brings at this point in his career. He has more value to the Bruins than any other team, due to his contract, fair value could not be obtained by trading him. Same with Krejci.

youll get a third for backes maybe if you duct tape donato to his back

$6 million cap hit for 3 more years, slowing down by the second, injury prone. I'll give you physical and a good leader, but at 34 yo the game is passing him by quickly.

the problem isn't how backes plays, we all love him when hes out there squashing heads and being his beast self. His role as a third line leadership guy kicking in maybe 30 to 40 pts just isn't worth 6 million bucks. he was never a great skater and is getting slower. I like him and if he was 4.25 million a season most people would too.

Injury prone?

2017 - 57gp
2016 - 74gp
2015 - 79gp
2014 - 80gp
2013 - 74gp

Over the last 5 years he's played 88% of the possible games. Last year was easily his worst year between a colon surgery and a cut to his right leg from a skate blade. If you take out last season, Backes has played in 94% of the possible games from 2013 to 2016....sorry, but that's not injure prone.

What else do we have here....

Oh, he's slowing down by the second. No speed wise, sure but then again he's never been a guy whose been known for his skating. Production wise I'd say lets pump the breaks. Backes for his career is a 0.62 P/GP player in the NHL. Last season Backes finished up at a 0.58 P/GP even despite his lesser role and injuries. What's that .04 worth really in a full 82 games season. Well I'll tell you, it comes out an amazing 3.28 points!! Now lets just call it 3 points for ease. So Backes was right around his career average in production, but he's slowing down. His production was actually better than last year (P/GP), but he's slowing down.

OH OH OH, but lets also not take into consider his linemates for majority of last year were a 22yr old rookie and a 20pt defensive minded centerman (Who went on to have one the best season of his career).

The guy is still a 40-50 point player in the NHL. I'll agree is slightly overpaid (now), but at the time of his deal, it was the right money. IDK I guess I'm not as down on guys like Backes/Krejci as others are. Then again I like to compare them to their peers and look at their entire situation i.e. Krejci plays with a revolving door of wingers while Bergeron plays w/ two elite wingers, yet their production is similar.

2017 David Krejci 64GP 17G 27A
2017 Patrice Bergeron 64GP 30G 33A

Not the same. A 2C making that much money needs to make players around him better, and he doesn't. I'm not saying i hate Krejci, but for the money you need more out of him.

Ok I see we've switched topics since you really don't have much on the Backes discussion. So here we go with Krejci....

2017 Pastrnak - 35G/45A
2017 Marchand - 34G/51A

2017 DeBrusk - 16G/27A
2017 Spooner* - 9G / 16A
2017 Nash* - 3G/3A

*Only GP with Boston

So combined, Krejci's linemates produced 28G/46A. The entire trio of wingers Krejci had last year wasn't even good enough (combined) to beat what Marchand or Pastrnak did on their own.

Over the last 3 seasons Krejci ranks 30th among centers in production and has had the following linemates (I'm sure I'll miss a few)

DeBrusk
Spooner
Nash
Eriksson
Cehlarik
Beleskey
Hayes
Stempniak

Outside of Nash, none of these guy are legit 2nd line wingers. Truth is Krejci has been given little support over the last 3 years and he's still producing offensive as a top flight NHL centerman. I guess I look at it this way. Over the last 3 years the difference in Bergeron and Krejci is 23 points. How is Krejci overpaid, but Bergeron isn't? Bergeron makes all of $375k less than Krejci does and plays with two elite players, yet can only manage 23 more points than an aging, injury prone, overpaid center.