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Published: Aug. 30, 2018
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This trade is interesting because for a lot of teams, they are an elite goalie away from true contention. Hank is still elite and at a little over 4M per year, a great value as well... please comment what you think your team,or any team, would give up for a half salary retained Lundqvist.
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1.
NYR
    They could use a goalie
    BUF
    1. Lundqvist, Henrik ($4,250,000 retained)
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      They could use a goalie
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      3.
      NYR
        They could use a goalie
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        4.
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          They could use a goalie
          NYI
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            They could use a goalie
            OTT
            6.
            NYR
              They could use a goalie
              PHI
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                They are kind of possibly needing one, less likely though
                STL
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                NYR
                  Another interesting partner. Could use hank until their goalie of the future is ready.(demko)
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:39 p.m.
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                  Calgary or Philly would most likely to pounce to be honest
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:44 p.m.
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                  As a Flames fan, I could see us considering it if the salary is reduced to 50%, although probably not until after this season unless Mike Smith has a catastrophic injury. This is also assuming none of the Flames goalie prospects really step up. What do the Rangers want/need in terms of prospects or picks?
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:44 p.m.
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                  I don't think Hank is elite anymore. That said, eat half the cap as you have here, and he'll get a first round pick and a solid prospect.
                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:45 p.m.
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                  IMO Lundquvist is quite content to stay a NMC Ranger.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:49 p.m.
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                  Quoting: palhal
                  IMO Lundquvist is quite content to stay a NMC Ranger.


                  He is for sure and of course this is hypothetical. You never know how he will feel by trade deadline on a rebuilding team though... he is a competitor.
                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:51 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Bcarlo25
                  I don't think Hank is elite anymore. That said, eat half the cap as you have here, and he'll get a first round pick and a solid prospect.


                  Disagree with him not being elite still, just on a bad team. I dont think that the value of that trade is horrible either. smile
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:52 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Michael
                  As a Flames fan, I could see us considering it if the salary is reduced to 50%, although probably not until after this season unless Mike Smith has a catastrophic injury. This is also assuming none of the Flames goalie prospects really step up. What do the Rangers want/need in terms of prospects or picks?


                  With the rangers being in full rebuild in my opinion, they need pieces for their future and nothing is off of the table...picks and prospects for sure.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:54 p.m.
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                  Elliot + Sanheim + Frost

                  For

                  Lundqvist (50% retained) + Zuccarello (50% retained) + 2nd

                  ?

                  Keep in mind I know people speak very highly of frost but I do not know is real value.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:54 p.m.
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                  Quoting: csick
                  Calgary or Philly would most likely to pounce to be honest


                  I agree for sure but what kind of value does he have at 4.25M for 3 yrs? A 1st and prospects? 2 1sts and prospects? Good goalies are a hard commodity to find.
                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:55 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Davisoc
                  Elliot + Sanheim + Frost

                  For

                  Lundqvist (50% retained) + Zuccarello (50% retained) + 2nd

                  ?

                  Keep in mind I know people speak very highly of frost but I do not know is real value.


                  Interesting for sure. I like the combo though. I do think that sanheim and frost are exactly the type of prospects they need and then elliot plays out the year as their starter. Nice job man smile
                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:58 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Mbrunne3
                  Interesting for sure. I like the combo though.


                  Well the thought is, this is an "all in" move and Matts is very good in the play offs.,
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:11 p.m.
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                  I agree for sure but what kind of value does he have at 4.25M for 3 yrs? A 1st and prospects? 2 1sts and prospects? Good goalies are a hard commodity to find.


                  The only thing is that he will be 37 years old by the end of the season and even at $4.25M it's risky for a goalie. He hasn't slowed down yet but a team acquiring him would be taking a gamble that he could keep up his level of play until he's close to 40. I think that would significantly affect the package for him.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:18 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Michael
                  The only thing is that he will be 37 years old by the end of the season and even at $4.25M it's risky for a goalie. He hasn't slowed down yet but a team acquiring him would be taking a gamble that he could keep up his level of play until he's close to 40. I think that would significantly affect the package for him.


                  True for sure... Luongo still looks pretty good but I definitely see what you mean for sure
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:33 p.m.
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                  Quoting: csick
                  Calgary or Philly would most likely to pounce to be honest

                  I think you could easily add Carolina to your list.
                  Quoting: Mbrunne3
                  Disagree with him not being elite still, just on a bad team. I dont think that the value of that trade is horrible either. smile

                  Yup, he is still "KING"
                  Quoting: Mbrunne3
                  True for sure... Luongo still looks pretty good but I definitely see what you mean for sure

                  Yes Luongo just keeps on ticking. He actually never has a really bad game. Ryan Miller just had the best year of his career and he is 38
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                  The only thing is that he will be 37 years old by the end of the season and even at $4.25M it's risky for a goalie. He hasn't slowed down yet but a team acquiring him would be taking a gamble that he could keep up his level of play until he's close to 40. I think that would significantly affect the package for him.

                  YUP,

                  Is this enough, Nylander, Guhle and Ullmark from Buffalo? TBH I would hate to part with them but for Lundqvist it would be worth it.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:35 p.m.
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                  Quoting: GMTD
                  I think you could easily add Carolina to your list.

                  Yup, he is still "KING"

                  Yes Luongo just keeps on ticking. He actually never has a really bad game. Ryan Miller just had the best year of his career and he is 38

                  YUP,

                  Is this enough, Nylander, Guhle and Ullmark from Buffalo? TBH I would hate to part with them but for Lundqvist it would be worth it.


                  Not even haha. Why woul trade 3 solid players for Lundqvist? Buffalo wont win now anyways. Buffalo should get a good young goalie and build around
                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:37 p.m.
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                  Quoting: GMTD
                  I think you could easily add Carolina to your list.

                  Yup, he is still "KING"

                  Yes Luongo just keeps on ticking. He actually never has a really bad game. Ryan Miller just had the best year of his career and he is 38

                  YUP,

                  Is this enough, Nylander, Guhle and Ullmark from Buffalo? TBH I would hate to part with them but for Lundqvist it would be worth it.


                  Yea I think so definitely some good upside there
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.
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                  Hmmm, Buffalo defs has some interest at deadline or in next offseason if Hutton doesnt work out. Young guy in Ullmark could learn a lot from hank, but Hutton come off a fantastic season at 2.25 per is something we can't give up on, just too good of a contract. and if we were to trade I think it would look like

                  Davidson + 2020 2nd
                  for
                  Lundqvist + 2019 4th
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 2:59 p.m.
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                  it's definitely been proven that teams do not need an elite goaltender to win the cup, they just need it at the right time. Lundqvist would be best in a situation where he plays 3/5-2/3 the season.. 50 games should be the marker. The biggest thing about him is that he thrives when it is on the line. He has some of the best statistics over the last decade in the playoffs. He's look out of sorts the last 2-3 years because yes he is no longer 28-30, but mainly because he's had the likes of Staal, Girardi, Kampfer, smith (last seasons version) and AHL defenders in front of him. Also tack into it a style of play under AV that did not fit the team (they weren't a puck possession team), playing square tiles in round holes (starting hayes over 60% defensively when he is an offensive gifted player) and that makes up the rest of the deficiency. I think carolina is one of the top teams that could use him, and they have the assets to get him as well (thinking young RHD or winger) and picks.

                  Out of all the teams posted (in post and comments), this is the order i can see him going to (if he fully waived that is):
                  Would want a first rounder also but:
                  St Louis (kyrou or kotsin)-- probably would have to retain or take a bad contract back, i.e. bouwmeester [would this get us an additional prospect?]
                  Carolina (Adam Fox)
                  Calgary (valimaki or andersson)


                  the rest (isles, van, buffalo, det, ott) are all sortof rebuilding and not ready to contend. If lundqvist would leave, it would be to win the cup.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 3:06 p.m.
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                  Hmmm, Buffalo defs has some interest at deadline or in next offseason if Hutton doesnt work out. Young guy in Ullmark could learn a lot from hank, but Hutton come off a fantastic season at 2.25 per is something we can't give up on, just too good of a contract. and if we were to trade I think it would look like

                  Davidson + 2020 2nd
                  for
                  Lundqvist + 2019 4th


                  idk if this would be able to get the deal done.. don't see gorts letting lundqvist go unless you have a potential top six player coming back (has potential to develop into top line player but will most likely be a zibanejad type player, okay 1st liner, good second liner) rather that the ryan spooners/namestnikovs of the NHL (good 3rd liners, meh 2nd liners)
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 3:29 p.m.
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                  Hank won't be traded. He has stated numerous times that he plans to retire a Ranger. I don't know if you caught the Brooks article at the TD, but Gordon offered to move him to a team with a chance at the cup and he said he was committed to the rebuild.

                  That being said, even if he were in a position to be traded I don't think they could get a return that would be anywhere near as beneficial to the team as having him around is.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 3:36 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Spanky227
                  it's definitely been proven that teams do not need an elite goaltender to win the cup, they just need it at the right time. Lundqvist would be best in a situation where he plays 3/5-2/3 the season.. 50 games should be the marker. The biggest thing about him is that he thrives when it is on the line. He has some of the best statistics over the last decade in the playoffs. He's look out of sorts the last 2-3 years because yes he is no longer 28-30, but mainly because he's had the likes of Staal, Girardi, Kampfer, smith (last seasons version) and AHL defenders in front of him. Also tack into it a style of play under AV that did not fit the team (they weren't a puck possession team), playing square tiles in round holes (starting hayes over 60% defensively when he is an offensive gifted player) and that makes up the rest of the deficiency. I think carolina is one of the top teams that could use him, and they have the assets to get him as well (thinking young RHD or winger) and picks.

                  Out of all the teams posted (in post and comments), this is the order i can see him going to (if he fully waived that is):
                  Would want a first rounder also but:
                  St Louis (kyrou or kotsin)-- probably would have to retain or take a bad contract back, i.e. bouwmeester [would this get us an additional prospect?]
                  Carolina (Adam Fox)
                  Calgary (valimaki or andersson)


                  the rest (isles, van, buffalo, det, ott) are all sortof rebuilding and not ready to contend. If lundqvist would leave, it would be to win the cup.


                  As a Flames fan, I don't see them moving Valimaki or Andersson for anything. Carolina could be a great fit if they're in the playoff chase. Fox did look good as a Flame but there's the whole "will he sign" question. Trading Fox to NYR for Lundqvist could be great for both teams.
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 3:44 p.m.
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                  Edmonton:

                  Talbot + Puljujärvi + Jones + 2019 1st (lotto protection move's to a 2020 1st) for Lundqvist
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                  Aug. 30, 2018 at 3:49 p.m.
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                  Quoting: CzechingOut
                  Edmonton:

                  Talbot + Puljujärvi + Jones + 2019 1st (lotto protection move's to a 2020 1st) for Lundqvist


                  very tempting.. idk abt lotto protected but this deal would be done if it was top 5 protected. also talbot is ufa at the end of the year.. don't know how he factors in terms of the rangers gaining anything from him (maybe a 3 way trade where the third team gives something to the rangers and get talbot back?)
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